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Offline Staga

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« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2002, 03:12:29 AM »
About 600-650hp and you can drive it in snow too :)

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« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2002, 08:38:49 AM »
Cars???

None I'd rather have a garage full of bikes including the one I already own. :-)

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« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2002, 09:05:19 AM »
hard to decide in the summer..  guess I could use a hundred grand or so to fix em up.   healey is 400+ hp 327 muncie  Camino is big block SS car with Richmond 6 speed both have bilstien shocks and hotchkiss performance suspension parts.
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« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2002, 09:21:16 AM »
Deja, I like Cobras ALOT.  I think that it would be a close race.  The Gt500KR is NO SLOUCH by any stretch of the imagination.

To hell with the drag strip.  Open road.

It wasn't called "King of the Road" for nothing.  I COULDN'T choose between the two.  

I see both sides on this one.

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« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2002, 09:44:36 AM »
NOW, the cobra I would want, is the "Rattlesnake" Carroll made (2 of them).  One for himself (later turned into a "parts chaser") and the other one was built only for Bill Cosby after meeting up with Carroll.  

Imagine this:

427
TWIN-Supercharged
900HP

MMMMOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMAAAAAAAAAA!

Bill Cosby's stand up of "180mph" is about his experience in THIS exact Cobra.  He sold it to a fan who, drove it off of a cliff in california (surprise there) and plummeted to his death after hitting 190.  This IS a true story.

Here is how it went down:

"Carroll Shelby was always one to try to outdo Ferrari. One unofficial record a Ferrari held was "0-100-0" time.  A couple of Shelby American employees took at 427 Cobra out to see what it would do. They were clocked going from 0 to100 mph back to0 again in 13.8 secs.  Try and grab that $100 bill taped to the dash...

The story goes that Bill Cosby, the comedian asked Shelby for a special Cobra, you know, one of a kind. Shelby put twin superchargers on a 427 Cobra. That lethal combination put out 900 horsepower!

Cosby owned a Rolls Royce that quit running on him so he decided to replace the car with a car would do over 180 mph. One day he while driving his Ferrari, he happened to bump into Carroll Shelby. Shelby told him that he should be driving a real sports car, an American one, not some foreign car. Cosby said American cars would only go 160 mph and he wanted one that would go at least 180 mph. Shelby told him they would build a special Cobra for Cosby, one that would go 200 mph. Cosby told him to go for it. He said he was like a kid waiting for Christmas to come. Shelby American delivered the Cobra to him at home. "Here are the keys to your Cobra", the man said.  It was all blue with side exhaust that wrapped clear around the car. Now imagine this, Shelby built a 900 horsepower, supercharged 427 engine for this Cobra. They even put a special plaque on the dash for him. Cosby got into the car and started it up. It roared to life. He turned it off faster than he had started it. He said his hair on his head went straight up. And he was just idling. He hadn't even put his "foot on the gas pedal and he was killing people." His impulse was to get out of the car, but his manhood wouldn't let him. Besides what would he tell Shelby. He had to drive it at least once. He put his foot on the brake as far as it would go, checked everything, fastened his seatbelt, which he never wore. He started the car again. It ROARED to life, he let the clutch out and he immediately began circling the tree in his yard. He shut it off, took the keys out, and gave the keys back to the Shelby American employee. He told him, take this car, its already paid for and give it to George Wallace."  

I know this was long but COME ON, a 900HP Cobra.  To hell with the standard 427!


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« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2002, 02:03:23 PM »
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Deja, I like Cobras ALOT.  I think that it would be a close race.  The Gt500KR is NO SLOUCH by any stretch of the imagination.

To hell with the drag strip.  Open road.

It wasn't called "King of the Road" for nothing.  I COULDN'T choose between the two.  

I see both sides on this one.

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I'm sorry Masherburn... but you do know I'm talking about a 427SC Cobra and not a mustang.. .right?

335HP / 4500 lbs does not compare to 450HP / 1700 lbs.

I couldn't find the 1/4 mile numbers on the SC Cobra on the web, but if they're over 12 seconds I'd be suprised (15 seconds for the 500KR).  It held the 0-60 acceleration record well into the 1990's.

Trust me... with this car, its not even close.

Not saying the Mustangs were slouches.... I love the Fastbacks of that era... just saying they're no 427SC Cobra.

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« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2002, 02:43:17 PM »
The latest side oiler ac cobra that shelby is building is an aluminum 500 incher with an intercooled supercharger..  It put out 1150 hp on the dyno through the mufflers.   Yes... shelby is building a few ac cobras from '60's chasssis that "turned up".  The article in question is in the latest issue of "superchevy" if anyone is interested.

the original 427 ac cobra was a side oiler FE motor rated at 425hp with two 4 bbls.  it would turn high 12sec quarters pretty easy (depending on gearing)  It was a 2600 lb car.   My healey is around 2100 lbs and the small block puts out an easy 400+ hp.   It runs low 12's with 3.76 gears and a 4 speed.   There is no car that I know of that accelerates so hard that you couldn't grab something off the dash.... I could throw you around enough tho in my car that you simply wouldn't want to attempt it  but the acceleration force would not do it...    What happens is that you are straining forward and then g forces stop as the driver shifts... grabbing gears is what keeps you bouncing around.  The 100 dollar bill thing has been around since the days of "hot rod lincoln".    

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« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2002, 02:50:35 PM »
specs for 427 ac cobra,

length 158"
wheelbase 90"
weight 2600 lbs
price new $7200
engine..
427 ohv V8  
borexstroke 4.23 x 378
bhp..  345 (single carb) 425 dual carb solid lifters
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« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2002, 02:57:36 PM »
Deserves another look

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« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2002, 03:18:32 PM »
and deja...  even the "fatest" mustangs never weighed more than about 3400 lbs.
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« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2002, 03:35:37 PM »
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Deserves another look


I know I'm going to regret this but... whenever I see an AC cobra, I want to dump a bucket of water over it's gills. Damn thing looks like a bass out of water. :)

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« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2002, 04:18:52 PM »
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I know I'm going to regret this but... whenever I see an AC cobra, I want to dump a bucket of water over it's gills. Damn thing looks like a bass out of water. :)

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« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2002, 04:25:27 PM »
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and deja...  even the "fatest" mustangs never weighed more than about 3400 lbs.
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The site I saw listed 3780 for the GT500KR (Ya.. less than the 4500 I stated).

It still doesn't compare though.  Really... even the FASTEST mustangs couldn't catch the 427SC Cobra.

GT40 on the other hand.... Seems it would be a great race (until the first corner).

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« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2002, 04:30:35 PM »
I've seen 427SC's beat GT40's many times in vintage racing.  GT40's were endurance racers, not sprint machines.  Mustangs aren't even close, Corvettes even worse.

BTW Lazs ol' Shel got in trouble for those "turned up" chassis.  Turns out they were brand new chassis they had beat up with wrenches and hammers and left out in the yard for a winter to weather.
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« Reply #74 on: August 30, 2002, 08:42:18 AM »
yep... knew that funked..  Met ol shel once.. he is quite a character.   I woulda done the exact same thing... I mean you aren't being dishonest to anyoone but a bunch of souless, weenie government agencies...   I mean... does the world need more 427 cobras or.... beurocrats?

deja...  even 3800 is kinda high.   Just weighed my air conditioned big block el camino at the scales with a full tank ( for regestration purposes) and it was 3660.  A base small block mustang was about 3100 so you would need to add a lot of stuff to get 700 more pounds.    4500 tho really took me by surprise.

funked.. friend of mine is in the shelby club and owns both a 350gt clone and a 427 cobra clone.   He races both.   the mustang actually is easier to drive (which fits my recolection)... in this day of factory extreme g machines like the new vette... We forget how difficult it was to drive short wheelbase 5-6 lbs/hp cars relatively unsophisticated suspension.  
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