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Offline weazel

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« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2000, 03:38:00 PM »
 I`ll be staying with Aces High,the thought of  the endless early war stuff bores me to tears.Theres also the factor that in order to progress into bigger-better equipment will require a substantial commitment of time.

 I expect I`ll download the beta and give the airwar a go-but I doubt it will keep my interest too long.

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« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2000, 04:44:00 PM »
 I find it interesting, that with a chance to stand up and be counted (in the only way that matters,cash flow) the only posts are from HTC trainers.

 What I can visulize is a situation where people get board with taking orders from a 16 year old gen. and long boring escort flights. And want to jump into a quick furball. Where do they jump if HTC is trying to out strat WW11OL. Ill be honest here. If im going to have strat shoved down my throet. Then im going to go with the best one. Im just as likely to jump ship as anyone if HTC keeps going the same way.

 last i would like to say it is way to early for HTC to toss in the towel. People who know more about it than me, doubt that the rats can pull it off. And the HTC boys have proven already that they can get the job done. But if there going to open another arena. They should open the beta arena back up, leave the bombers/tanks in the main, and grab a peice of the furball market.

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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2000, 05:15:00 PM »
easymo:
lots of people read these threads without letting their heads be counted, in spite of what the general told them ;=)

Ok count me in then.And Im not a trainer ;=)

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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2000, 12:56:00 AM »

Now a sec arena would devide the community, when I fly theres mostly 50-90 people online in MA, say that 20-40 of em disapered to HA?
It would leave 30-50 people left. 30-70 people devided into 3 countrys would give 10-17 people per country. Then devide theese into 3 fields, etc,etc,etc
It would be very hard to find a fight
Now this would really suck a big one!
 
Would prefere a HA arena, but it would only damage the AH they way it looks now.

BORK,BORK,BORK!!
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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2000, 06:25:00 AM »
Badger's got it right. You need 1 or 2 guys who have experience in setting up an arena and then monitoring occassionaly, then you can experiment.

Hi Udie and Av8r, Natasha misses both of you <VBG>. No plans to move over to AH at the moment. I want to see what WB-III has to offer. I also want to see if there is any commitment on AH's part for Historical activity as opposed to the general arena mayhem stuff. And I am also waiting on WW2online to see if that satisfies the Historical recreation side.

Aren't choices wonderful  

BTW, Smiley and I are now flying with the 31st FG run by Daddy, lb, sharky. Its a Historical Squad and we are beginning to tie in with actual Veterans from that fighter group, so its quite interesting. I'll be at the Warbirds Con in June if you guys plan to be around Raleigh/Durham June 22-25, let me know.

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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2000, 08:27:00 AM »
I'm 2 minds about the HA. (yes its all I flew in WB and I love it more than I will ever love any main arena)

mind 1:
the player base is not large enough to be divided.

organization like in the S3's and SL's in WB was never there.

the HA was always lopsided duw to aircraft deficiencies.

Main Arena demands more flying skill  due to larger variety of planes one faces.


mind2:

I love the Historical matchup

10 people in an HA is worth 50 in an MA to me

I prefer longer flights looking for the enemy

I find NO ICONS extremely enjoyable even though its difficult.

so all in all...

I think the SEA should be configured as a unofficial "HA" with icons disabled and country 3 disabled along w allied vs axis plane set. it will be sparsely habitated but fun for those there who are die hard History fans


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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2000, 09:36:00 AM »
And that seems to be the best compromise. Take the SEA, disable one country, limit plane choices to allied/axis per side, reduce icons, and see what happens. The B26 will have to be available to both sides, but aside from that there should be enough planes to make it worthwhile. It can run this way by defualt (unless a scenario is planned).

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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2000, 09:46:00 AM »
I think our thread is wandering off the topic slightly, now asking who's switching to WWII On-line when it comes live.  I never comment on alphas, betas or screenshots, but I have to admit that I have a keen interest in more than just the flight sim aspect of my on-line entertainment.

I would like to participate in a more realistic ground element of tank warfare, then AH is able to give us as a secondary focus.  For example, I was engaging in "tank to tank" combat yesterday and was consistently taken out by "3fingers" at ranges from 5.2 to 7.5k.    NOTE: there are no icons visible at those ranges, so simply lowering icon ranges wouldn't make an iota of difference here.  By the way, as an aside, he's an awesome "tread head" and would have made an incredible real life gunner, having a natural feel for range and movement.  If you guys want some Panzer IV training, then "he's da man"!!!  Anyway, my point is that those engagement ranges are "quake like" and actually approach the theoretical range of at least vintage Sherman APDS.

So, will I switch to WWII On-line?  Well, I will be trying the beta (closed if possible) and I'll let you know.  If it provides me greater satisfaction in tanks, plus a more HA type capability for the flight sim portion, probably YES, but dependent upon other factors.

Easymo made an astute observation, which is unusual for him.    There are a lot of "little generals" over on the WWII On-line BBS.  I notice a huge bunch of youngsters setting themselves up as "Supreme Commanders" etc.  I think there's a good chance that the teen element could dominate the WWII On-line environment, which is not something I would be able to handle, even if the software supported the tank warfare realistically.  I already went through puberty and its ego stuff once, I really don't want to watch the instant replays.    I also notice that WWII On-line's BBS is also starting to see the same cliquish self centric characters that dominate Argo's BBS for WB.  I'm sure we all know who they are.  Some of these guys are scary and apparently believe their own press releases about themselves.  IMHO, they have helped lead to some of the deterioration of the WB community that used to have the kind of positive vibrancy seen here in AH.

So much of what makes AH really enjoyable for me today, is the sense of community and camaraderie that has developed so quickly.  Simply look at the way this AH extended virtual family responds to someone who posts a message about a personal need or tragedy and this is to an individual they've probably never even met before.  That says a lot about the overall character and maturity of the AH environment to date.  If that holds, then I would probably stay here regardless of the direction of the competitive alternatives.

Sorry for the long winded dramatics, but sometimes I have to have a soapbox too.  

BTW, back on topic,  I still would like an HA.  The WB one is operated by RAM1 and VERT with incredible dedication and variety (no drain on iEN resources).  I don't see why we can't set the SEA up as an HA during off hours here.  I heard ripsnort and kieren volunteer to handle it.  

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Badger

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« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2000, 05:06:00 PM »
I'm with Citabria. The Arena already exists to make the unofficial changes to a Historical Arena. The Special Events Arena is almost always used as an Axis versus Allies event, or it wouldn't be historical, so why not make the changes and let pilots use it as an ongoing Historical Arena right now.

I just can't see any reason why not.

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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2000, 04:26:00 AM »
I'm all for an HA...
would fly there exclusively.

HOWEVER.....

So far we have enjoyed constant updates in a timely manner, some have been simply amazing in the amount of time it didn't take to get something fixed.

If staff were pulled from that duty, to get a planeset fixed,, then there goes the timely updates.....

We do not yet enjoy the size of planeset needed for HA environment.
Give em time,, it'll get here.

Sure currently there is a hue and cry for a HA. I'd add my voice in an instant.
IMHO, the customer base, (so far) is not large enough to sustain one by itself.

Who would bother to go there if there were only 5-10 flyers there.

Some of the comments I've heard over the years was just that concerning the WB HA..

unless it was prime time weekend, it just wasn't that much fun to go to HA. And by a couple of peoples own comments, their Squads boycotted till their preferred plane came around.

I say give 'em time.
HTC has done wonders for us this past 8 months.... Lets let them do their thing, I would be willing to bet that they'll continue to amaze and astound us as they do theirs..

meanwhile  ENJOY  



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