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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2002, 04:16:01 AM »
lol ammo:)

 
Andijg, I totaly agree on your points, were mearly debating the issue of adding another perkable fighter and which one it may well be, No we realy do not a perk plane, but they are kinda fun to fly:) And Imo, the He 162 would of been better than a Me 262 only becuase it was a better gun platform, the me 262 was way more important historicaly of course, but from the aspect of geting and going for a ride, I would love to scoot around in a He 162:)

 Personaly I cant wait to fly the Me 163, I think with proper management of burn time and how well it handels coupled with it's e retention we will get some usage outa that rocket:)

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2002, 04:20:03 AM »
As long as the uber porked Ta152 is perked the P47M should be too. And some other planes already in AH.
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2002, 04:48:39 AM »
Next perk should be the Meteor III, I fully agree :)
Then the perk costs should be revised, preferably divided with two or something like that
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2002, 06:02:37 AM »
Brady,

Why is it you stamp your feet and throw yourself to the floor at the mention of another American heavy bomber; and yet advocate the addition of another German Jet?

I understand the first reaction (regardless of wether I agree or not); but the second looks somewhat inconsistent; no?

And; as we already know; the Me163 is defintely on the way; pending artwork.

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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2002, 07:53:36 AM »
Seems any time an aircraft is added that isn't German the wailing and whining and gnashing of teeth rises to a new level.

There were other countries involved. There's lots and lots of non-German and non-US "workhorse" aircraft that haven't been modeled yet.

No need for the estoteric, hardly-got-used, late-war, last-minute-wunder-weapons to get such a priority.. heck, any priority at all for that matter.

Just my .02.


Besides, you guys have your plate full just getting HTC to work the 31 flavors of FW with their 421 specific armament packages up to it's generally agreed upon immortal, insuperable natural self, don't yas?  ;)
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2002, 08:36:21 AM »
andijg, one glaring gap in the planset happens to be in the RAF planeset.  The RAF doesn't have a late-war non-perked fighter, this would be solved by having another spit modelled.:p
But which spitfire to choose.....a spit VIII or a spitXVI.  It must have clipped wings and a bubble canopy too of course.:D
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2002, 09:59:27 AM »
Seeker, I am mearly debating the Metoer vs He 162 issue if I had to chose I would pick the He 162 is my only point as i mentioned above I realy dont feal they nead to be added at the moment.

" Andijg, I totaly agree on your points, were mearly debating the issue of adding another perkable fighter and which one it may well be, No we realy do not a perk plane"

  It is a matter of the lesser eveal:), and for the record I realy dont advocate any other German planes at the moment, If it  came down to which ones were to be added or which one to add and why I would more than likely comment on it as I have regarding the HE 177, He 162, and JU 52, i am mearly debating the issue simply saying yes or no to any of these does not nescessarly mean I favore adding them over the modeling of planes for Japan, Italy or Russia, the fact of the matter I would prefer seing planes for those countries added first, but the reality of it all is I doubt that will happen.

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2002, 12:12:37 PM »
how about recon planes ? mean the Pony or 262 photo recon version ? and limit radar to very primitive way the photo recon planes was realy tuned up non armed mostly and they was realy extensively used !!

for the nest perk ride , well in AH perks mean RARITY and not uber super performance , beter let them develop other planes and GVs instead of some books and holywood dream planes

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2002, 12:38:08 PM »
ANDI, I didn't know you are Jester00 in the CT :)

Good to see you.

The next perk ride I would like to see is the IJAAF "jack" raiden. Period. IMO We don't need another Jug (although I do like jugs) and definitely not another spitfire. good grief, I can't throw a rock these days in AH without damn near hitting one of em. As one of the CT staffers said in another thread, there is a real need to establish some equity in the game, and adding planesets from other countries needs to be taken care of first.

I would perk the Raiden because it was rare, and very potent. I believe it had more firepower than the Niki2, and was a very fast (yet unmanueverable compared to Japanese standards) aircraft.

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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2002, 02:43:34 PM »
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how about recon planes ? mean the Pony or 262 photo recon version ? and limit radar to very primitive way the photo recon planes was realy tuned up non armed mostly and they was realy extensively used !!

for the nest perk ride , well in AH perks mean RARITY and not uber super performance , beter let them develop other planes and GVs instead of some books and holywood dream planes


very dumb idea. However, kudo's for being coherent minus!!
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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2002, 03:43:03 PM »
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very dumb idea. However, kudo's for being coherent minus!!


LOL ....mean, cruel, but damn funny :D

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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2002, 03:57:42 PM »
I love RAF planes, but the Meteor?

It'll end up being perked because its a jet, and we don't want an arena full of Jets, but its performance is actually quite mediocre compared to many of the other free planes (such as the 51D and LA7) so... lets not bother to add another Ta152 style Turkey to the roster. The Tempest is a significantly better performer than the Meteor in everything but top speed and that gets infrequent use as it is.

There are other planes of significance that would be heavily flown such as the B-25, B-24, HE 111 and the Stuka that need to be added first. Heck, I'd vote for adding 109K4 before the Meteor and I never fly Luftwabble planes as a rule.

If we really want a Perkie that would be flown, when the Bombing model is cleaned up - add the B29!

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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2002, 07:23:00 PM »
The Tempest V was not better than the Meteor III.

I'd like to see the Meteor III at some point, but there are other planes that would be more interesting/vital:

1) Stuka
2) Tu-2
3) T-34
4) Pe-3

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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2002, 08:20:25 PM »
Red Tail 444, The Jack, had two Type 99MK II and Two Type 99 MK I, cannons as apposed to the Georges (our geogre's) four Type 99 MK II cannons, So the George has the heaver aramament as well as having more ammo. The Jack was prety much discontinued In favor of the George since the Japanese Felt it was a better plane, BTW the Jack is a Navy Plane not Army. The Jack was less manuaverable than the George as well, also slower, the George is prety slow as it is. Also some 476 were produced over  twice as many as the C hog, perking is truly unwarented.

 It would be Nice to get another Japanese Army Fighter added, maybe even or at least another Tony varent added, Ki 100, and Please a Ki 84.

 

         
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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2002, 10:59:47 PM »
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The Tempest V was not better than the Meteor III.

I'd like to see the Meteor III at some point, but there are other planes that would be more interesting/vital:

1) Stuka
2) Tu-2
3) T-34
4) Pe-3


Based on what criteria? Even the RAF admitted that based on post-war tests the ME262 was superior to the Meteor III. The Meteor doesn't turn or accelerate half as well as the Tempest and the armament is identical. I can almost guarantee you that in head to head competitions the Tempest is going to come out on top in AH.

BTW - When did the Russians produce a flying variant of the T34? ;)  Just funning you...

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