Hehehe, that was a lousy try lazs. Do you remember the straw thingy?
C'mon, you can make it better that that.
On your answer to DjV, and as far it is connected with my post, let me say that it does not deal with what you want or not. You actually whine. In fact, all of us do it to some extent. What makes you different is that you speak as if your problems are every one's problems. And you speak as if what is fun for you MUST be fun for everyone. And you repeat it time and time and time and time....
We ALL (in favour and against) know what YOUR points are. And your arguments are not only lame, but distasteful. Let's take, for instance, the first paragraph of your post: Your proposition is that you (and the "lot" of others like you) are perennial newbies because you have a busy and full life. So, the ones that are not newbies had achieved their status by emptying their own life....nice on your part, apart of pretentious. Some humility would be in order here.
Let's go for the second paragraph. Why have the old vets and the people who spend countless hours on line etc. have to drop their reality demands in order to please YOU?
The third one....What makes you think
we are a small core?....please, take your time and read the threads. Make some numbers too. You do not want a perfectly modeled FM. You do not want a perfectly modeled DM. You do not want a lot of variety and parity. You want YOUR action, YOUR variety, YOUR conception of what a perfect FM and DM is....not only you disguise this under your "I want the REAL model, not a lame one", you are relentless at this.
On the fourth paragraph, just a little point out. AH is a NICHE product. Or it was that at the beginning. The ones that joined the beta period, and the early stages are the ones that wanted realism. AW, CFS2, Crimson Skies (maybe a too rough generalisation here, but I hope you see the point) and the like are mass products. Their only goal is FUN. What is fun for the mass, so be it. Real....real?? Who wants real??? I want FUN.... That is: For masses (not for Mass
).
AH is not (at least I hope it isn't) a mass product. I do not want to fly with guys that don't care at all about realism, strategy, and brain usage. I think you qualify in more that one of these cathegories. So
THOSE are not
the things that bring new guys. That are the ones that bring
certain new guys. The other ones that you seem to hate so much might attract some other different bunch of guys. Maybe here more is not better.
Last paragraph. Again you are talking for others. And I have seen nowhere they are asking or encouraging you to do so.
As you see, a jewel in each and every paragraph of your post. And your style is consistent.
Now relax, talk only for yourself, fly, die, kill, but save us from your monochord diatribe. Leave your mantra at home. Fly the virtual skies for fun. But for your own fun. If you can't find fun here, go elsewhere. That's what any sensible person would do. But, please, stop telling YOUR points are fun, and the others are lame. You made them already.
Sorry if I look harsh. I came here because AH was a challenge, and the closest to the real thing as I could find.
ALL, and I mean ALL of us have been newbies. ALL (again ALL) of us have learned to fly more or less profficiently. ALL of us have suffered the steepiness of the learn curve. I do not want to make gameplay or realism concessions to help new newbies. I am all to help them, and I usually do. But concessions, NO. Combat trim is just beyond that line, but I can deal with it.
Finally, I do not represent anybody here, nor I do not know how many the players here thing the same, I speak for myself. And I say that I
WANT realism, strategy and teamwork. For now, AH is the product that fills my needs best. We, and now I am talking for that portion of niche players (or reality nuts, whatever you want), will try to fly the closest to the real thing we can. We will certaily leave AH if it moves towards "game" in detriment of "sim". And this is not an "I quit" sentence, but one to show you that something that is fun for you, it might be not for some other. You don't quite seem to understand this.
Cheers,
Pepe