Author Topic: Graphics (Read 1512 times)

Mitsu · « **Reply #30 on:** September 03, 2002, 02:38:30 AM »

ouch, WWIIOL 1.67 hitting my heart...

Samm · « **Reply #31 on:** September 03, 2002, 04:30:41 AM »

The art in Janes was awesome, especially the instruments .

Hristo · « **Reply #32 on:** September 03, 2002, 04:45:08 AM »

straffo · « **Reply #33 on:** September 03, 2002, 08:28:05 AM »

So true Oedipus

look what happend to the pillar of the 190

hitech · « **Reply #34 on:** September 03, 2002, 08:35:21 AM »

To make those details on a plane requires larger textures.

Which would make a much larger down load and also some of the currently supported boards out of range.

AH's engine is completly written in house.

straffo · « **Reply #35 on:** September 03, 2002, 08:46:21 AM »

last Il-2 upgrade patch :
4 more planes :Messerschmitt Bf-109 E-7/Z ,Yakovlev Yak-9,Yakovlev Yak-9D ,Junkers Ju-87 B-2 .

Total weight : 29 MO ...

Current AH weight : 32.5 MO

Yoda · « **Reply #36 on:** September 03, 2002, 09:03:25 AM »

You can't polish a turd.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #37 on:** September 03, 2002, 09:44:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Hristo
Your statement sounds like underestimating people's talent. Il-2 and WB accept player made models. Do you think AH players are uncapable of doing the same ?

Did you bother to read what Oleg said about player made models? He says they spend as much time going over the model and fixing errors with it as he would building a completely new model.

Not to mention the size of Il2's team is 4x, or more, than that of HTC so they have resources to fix up player made models while creating new ones.

As for engine, go try WB for a minute. Take p47D, p51D or P38L and watch the reflections an plane skin. Awesome ! And you know what ? P47 models are player contributed. Actually, the best looking models like c.202, c.205, p47c, P47d and 190A8 are work of Lemsko - a member of PDC.

Looking nice and requireing time to fix 'em up are two entirely different things. I know all about the PDC, but it still takes time to fix up player made models and make sure they will work properly in the game.
-SW

gatt · « **Reply #38 on:** September 03, 2002, 10:18:49 AM »

Well IMHO, the size of the d/l and the average graphic card are not an obstacle anymore. However, I can understand reasons based on development pace (i.e.: "better a lot of things with this graphic engine instead of a few with the new one").

I for one would like to see a more powerful graphic engine, like the WB's one I mean. And I'm sure that sooner or later AH will feel compelled to go in that direction by the market. However so far IMNSHO, AH is still the best.

Gixer · « **Reply #39 on:** September 03, 2002, 06:01:15 PM »

Couldn't agree more on the graphics and how much AH is showing it's age. Though with any new graphic Improvements I'd really want to see an improved damage model as well.

...-Gixer
The Horse Soldiers

brendo · « **Reply #40 on:** September 03, 2002, 06:25:26 PM »

Odepious....IL2, WarbirdsIII and WWIIOnline have the same 3D cockpit as AH. There is no difference. AH just lets you move you head. 3D is 3D.

As far as form over function..... I play AH regardless of the older graphics style. For me, the sim itself is good enough without the modern graphics engine. That doesnt change the fact that I would be happy to have a larger optional download for bigger textures or new engine.

I download 130 meg, just for the newest WBIII versions and I dont even have an account

I dont care how big the download is, if it enhanses my immersion

DarkHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** September 03, 2002, 06:52:38 PM »

If you like big download try FAIII last time I looked the download was 260 meg and the smallest patch was 68 meg

DarkHawk

PS I have flown both but stay here Like AH better.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #42 on:** September 03, 2002, 07:20:08 PM »

Why not allowing an extention for the ones who bother to download big files?

You can have the default Aces High if you are download challenged and/or graphic card chalenged. But leave an Enhanced Aces High Option for the ones who can afford it.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #43 on:** September 03, 2002, 08:57:48 PM »

Because that doubles the work load of an otherwise already overworked team.

We get far more in every update than any other game out there... and they do it just as quick, if not quicker, than every other developer out there.

Do you want them to slow down their progress to make a new graphics enhancement which will have to be updated in another 8 to 12 months... when they can just as easily do it in 8 months or so and give us a FAR better enhancement because cards with far more features will be the standard?

Despite what many of you may think, GF2s still are not the standards in many people's PCs.

What I don't get is, HiTech said he was going to do a graphics update when GF2s were standard in everyone's PCs... so why do you keep pushing the issue? It gets a bit repetative after a while.
-SW

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #44 on:** September 03, 2002, 10:09:56 PM »

Why? Because it starts to be more and more obvious for me that the sim graphics are aging. I'm making my voice eard that it starts to darken my gaming experience.

You can act as ofended as you wish SW, but I politly stated my thoughts and even tried to propose solutions to help wait the "no soup for you 1 year". As far as I'm concerned, having nicer looking planes is more important than flying a P47M. It has nothing to do with my beliefs on the great effort that HTC is putting in their baby.