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Offline Wotan

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More on bombing...
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2002, 08:33:19 PM »
I forgot about this thread, basically because its the same old whine.

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Now, rightfully it takes a squad effort to close airfields and keep them down. Does this mean you'll be wanting indestructible airfields.


Ht has said he will up the hardness of the hangers to 3k lbs, right now they are 2500lbs.  I have never since the la7 has been out flew one. Not offline, in an event ever. My squad and I do more then furball. Our scores show this.

My squaddie has films of him hitting targets from as high as 33k. He posted a pick. He can kill hangers with ease. I bet if I tried I could to.

Ht has said that he wants bombing to shift away from airfields to different targets.

Now you can dig up a millions thing to justify your positions. But none of this has anything to do with what goes on in the main. Very rarely if ever in the main did you see bombers over airfields in support of field capture. It was/is  mostly 1 guy at 6k overhead trying snipe the hangers and then getting killed.

Now you see these very same types uppin the suicide jabos. Its the same folks. Now it takes 5 typh dweebs instead of 1 lanc or b17.

The difference is killing bombers is about as fun as stomping on ants. The typh raids can be intercepted and fun fights sometimes develope. But these suicide raids arent new. They were here before 1.10 and will be here forever.

There are other targets for the bombers in ah. HT has said that he will expand the towns and strat objects so that it would take bombers to level them.

But if you cant hit anything in the bombers now then just quit. I see others do it. They kill hangers as well as other stuff from all different alts.

The main is not a war. Dont try to tell the rest of us what we should be doing. No one ever said you all cant hit what you want. We have argued for a bomber model that better reflected its most common roll and that it be modelled to do away with its laser accuracy.

The whines we hear now are no different from when we first got the airfield towns. Fluffers complained "now theres no reason for us to hit the fhs".

Some  folks get about an hour a day to fly. why should we be forced to waste our time flying 15 to 30 min to a fight just so you can feel "usefull".  

We just had an event in ah that was designed around bombers. The key to the whole event was the bomber pilots. Where we all you "dedicated" bomber guys? You dont want anything approaching "realism". You want the attention of being the guys who "shut down" the furball.

You all dont show up to the places where bombers are needed, ie events like big week and the Battle of Britain. You are all in the main trying to figure out how get those pesky fhs.

HT is making a Mission Arena, where bomber pilots and fighter pilots a like will have to work together. Lets see how many of you "bomber guys" show up there. Slim to none I bet.

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More on bombing...
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2002, 11:52:58 PM »
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Isn't that quite ironic - the main discussion is that one person in a buff shouldn't be able to close an airfield in minutes which "ruins a bunch of peoples fun" and yet hordes of Jabo's are doing exacly that in the MA every day.
What the horde does vs what one player does.  There is no irony... the situations are completely different.  A horde should be able to roll over something... the impact should be felt on the rest of the nation that they have left defenseless.  But that's a subject for a different thread.
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You are right that we can't apply realistic strategies to the game at the moment and that is my point. Fighter bombers never closed an airfield and only raided frontline strips in fast in / fast out attacks.
You're making this about a fighter's capabilities... that's not what the thread is about.  I could go on for days about the inadequacy of base defenses and the overwhelming "ack needs to be turned down" complaints that have resulted in the most dweebish base attack behavior one can imagine.  But then again... that's for another thread.

The thread is about bombers.  I'm for making them more realistic with more realist targets.  Unfortunately, in order to do that, HTC is going to have to create a totally unrealistic strategy/reward system to get people to participate.  Surely you must know this.  It is the norm in virtually every arena style game out.

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