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Offline senna

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C-130 firing off flares
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2002, 02:55:56 AM »
How does a C-130 pilot know if his aircraft is being tracked by a heat-seaking missle?

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2002, 03:29:45 AM »
The same way any other military aircrew would know they were under attack.  They observe a missile firing or get a launch indication on their threat warning suite.

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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2002, 03:41:35 AM »
funked can you cut and past the article ?


I've the usual .mil syndrome :(

(and no i'm not a dangerous Hackerzzz :D)

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2002, 03:55:30 AM »
Reminds me of one time when I had the toejams real bad after some dodgey Curry - came out just like that.

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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2002, 04:00:18 AM »
USAF Fact Sheet
MC-130E/H Combat Talon I/II

Mission
The MC-130E Combat Talon I and MC-130H Combat Talon II provide infiltration, exfiltration and resupply of special operations forces and equipment in hostile or denied territory. Secondary missions include psychological operations and helicopter air refueling

Features
Both aircraft feature terrain-following and terrain-avoidance radars capable of operations as low as 250 feet in adverse weather conditions. Structural changes to a basic C-130 include the addition of an in-flight refueling receptacle, and strengthening of the tail to allow high speed/low-signature airdrop. Their navigation suites include dual ring-laser gyros, mission computers and integrated global positioning system. They can locate, and either land or airdrop on small, unmarked zones with pinpoint accuracy day or night.

An extensive electronic warfare suite enables the aircrew to detect and avoid potential threats. If engaged, the system will protect the aircraft from both radar and infrared-guided threats. Currently, the MC-130E is equipped with aerial refueling pods to provide in-flight refueling of Special Operations Forces and combat search and rescue helicopters. The MC-130H will be modified to provide this capability in the near future.

The primary difference between the MC-130E and MC-130H involves the degree of integration of the mission computers and avionics suite. The Combat Talon I was conceived originally and developed during the 1960s, and although extensively upgraded in the 1980-90s it still features analog instrumentation and does not fully integrate the sensors and communications suites. The Combat Talon II, designed in the 1980s, features an integrated glass flight deck which improves crew coordination and reduces the crew complement by two.

History
The Combat Talon first flew in 1966 and saw extensive service in Southeast Asia, including the attempted rescue of Americans held at the Son Tay prisoner-of-war camp in 1970. Combat Talons landed in the Iranian desert in April 1980 in support of Operation Eagle Claw, the attempt to rescue American hostages held by Iran.

The aircraft saw combat in Grenada in 1983, delivering U.S. Army Rangers to Point Salinas Airfield in the opening moments of Operation Urgent Fury, and subsequently performing psychological operations leaflet drops. In 1989 Combat Talon I's led the joint task force for Operation Just Cause in the Republic of Panama, helping to seize the airfield at Rio Hato.

The 1990s found the Combat Talon I employed in Operation Desert Storm, where they dropped 11 BLU-82, 15,000-pound bombs and more than 23 million leaflets in a highly effective effort to encourage Iraqi soldiers to surrender. The Talon also conducted numerous aerial refuelings of special operations helicopters with combat search and rescue operations. The U.S. Air Force continues to rely on the proven abilities of this aircraft by its recent deployments supporting operations Provide Promise and Deny Flight in Bosnia, Assured Response in Liberia and multiple deployments to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait for Southern Watch. All MC-130E aircraft have been transferred to the Air Force Reserve. The active-duty force flies their aircraft through an active-associate program.

The MC-130H Combat Talon II entered operational service with the U.S. Air Force in 1991. It is based both within the continental U.S. and the European and Pacific theaters. The aircraft has been involved in the evacuations of non-combatant Americans and other civilians from conflicts in Liberia (1996) and Zaire (1997). In 1998, a Combat Talon II aircrew was awarded the Mackay Trophy for their involvement in the evacuation of civilians from the Republic of the Congo (1997).

General Characteristics
Primary Function: Infiltration, exfiltration and resupply of special operations forces
Builder: Lockheed
Power Plant: Four Allison T56-A-15 turboprop engines
Thrust: 4,910 shaft horsepower each engine
Length:
MC-130E: 100 feet, 10 inches (30.7 meters)
MC-130H: 99 feet, 9 inches (30.4 meters)
Height: 38 feet, 6 inches (11.7 meters)
Wingspan: 132 feet, 7 inches (40.4 meters)
Speed: 300 mph
Load:
MC-130E: 53 troops, 26 paratroopers
MC-130H: 77 troops, 52 paratroopers or 57 litter patients
Ceiling: 33,000 feet (10,000 meters)
Maximum Takeoff Weight:155,000 pounds (69,750 kilograms)
Range: 2,700 nautical miles (4,344 kilometers) Inflight refueling extends this to unlimited range
Crew:
MC-130E: Officers - two pilots, two navigators and an electronic warfare officer; enlisted - flight engineer, radio operator and two loadmasters
MC-130H: Officers - two pilots, a navigator and electronic warfare officer; enlisted - flight engineer and two loadmasters
Date Deployed: MC-130E, 1966; MC-130H, June 1991
Unit Cost: MC-130E, $75 million; MC-130H, $155 million (fiscal 2001 constant dollars)
Inventory: Active force, MC-130H, 24; Reserve, MC-130E, 14; ANG, 0

Point of Contact

U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command, Public Affairs Office; 229 Cody Ave, Ste 103; Hurlburt Field FL 32544-5312; DSN 579-5515 or (850) 884-5515

August 2001

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2002, 04:09:13 AM »
merci !

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2002, 08:37:53 AM »
Cant believe that a C130 cost 3 times as much as an F14.

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2002, 08:51:25 AM »
What does the smoke appear to be after the last volley?

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2002, 08:55:58 AM »
Kinda related, and if that impresses you, I saw a 125lbs amateur hobby rocket launched on AMRAM missile grains last weekend. Incredible flight. Check it out if Tripoli launches are in your area.

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2002, 09:41:34 AM »
Blackbird of the Nightmares is an MC-130 Nav. and is currently in an undisclosed foreign land somewhere near you-know-where.