API for the .50?

[MrHanky]

So far Aces High sounds like it will give Wb's a run for it's money(or our money to be more accurate  ).  I have only one question.  Will there be API rounds for the Browning .50?

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[MrHanky]

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[Pyro]

We are not planning to model different damage for different types of rounds on a single belt of ammo.

 

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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
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[Zombie]

I find this Pyro's information quite disturbing and it really does not make much sense. Since you say that you will model every bullet there should be different ammo types modeled too! And after all the damage system should be state-of-the-art!

IMHO modeling different kinds of ammo would give more flavor to the game. The variety of aircraft munitons during the WWII was quite colorful and different ammo for different situations had tactical impact. There wes a big difference was one strafing shiping with 20mm HE or did one use special anti-shiping rounds etc..



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Petteri 'Zombie' Kihlberg
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[-ik-]

agreed zombie. Unfortunately, without engine controls and different ammunition types we're left with....(drum roll)....Warbirds! hehe. Which has become a real kick since 2.72.

[fats]

--- Pyro: ---
We are not planning to model different damage for different types of rounds on a single belt of ammo
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That's it, we will have to sick itmo at you! Okay you said no different types per belt, which isn't the same as no different ammo types at all. So will there be different 20mm ammunition belts available for given 20mm gun?


~/fats

[Pyro]

Fats:  The reason we're not doing it is because we can't do it in a meaningful way without it getting to be more expensive than it's worth.  Now if you don't care whether it really does much, we can implement that.  

Just because itmo made it an option, doesn't mean it's what you think it is.  As a longtime WB player, I know that you know that all hits and collisions are localized to the FE.  So I'll let you figure out how the FE knows to tell the host what rounds it's firing and what rounds it's hitting with when all that is being handled on the host side and the FE doesn't have a clue about any of that.

As to different ammunition types being available per weapon but in a single belt, I was thinking about using that for some of the larger caliber weapons in the 37mm-40mm range.

 

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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

[-ik-]

Ok, maybe different ammunition types isn't practical, but please don't let a repeat of Warbirds 2.6 happen to AH.

Just to recap, in 2.6 the MG 151 was given a flat nosed "Geschloss" type mine shell which was used historically against bombers. Problem was, it was useless against fighters, and AP 20mm ammo was still better against bombers than the Geschloss type, which makes no sense at all. In DoA you have regular ammo and incindiary, and it has different effects on different targets, something like that would be perfect for AH.

[fats]

--- Pyro: ---
As to different ammunition types being available per weapon but in a single belt, I was thinking about using that for some of the larger caliber weapons in the 37mm-40mm range.
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Fair enough. Any reason why you weren't planning to have ammo types for the smaller caliber weapons? Obviously it is more work to do ~20 ammo types for the MG 151/20 than just one, but any reason other than the effort involved in doing them.


~/fats

[MrHanky]

I think my initial question was misunderstood.  What I meant when asking about the API round for the .50 was that is that going to be the exclusive type of ammo for the .50 or is it going to be another type like HE, AP or whatever.

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