Author Topic: Switzerland no longer neutral. (Read 802 times)

miko2d · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2002, 03:43:57 PM »

What's the big deal? Wasn't Paris declared an "open city" to avoid damage?
Weren't germans making fool use of occupied France's restaurants, rairoads and factories?

Didn't french Vishy troops fough against allies?

It's not like I said that France is the only country to have an internet "fill in your name" surrender form in all languages...

miko

Thrawn · « **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2002, 04:53:00 PM »

For christ sake, as much Canada and France have had issues in the past, this is the whoopee limit. I sick and diddlyin' tired of the France surrendering BS. France and the BEF got there butts kicked in WW2. So fediddleing what. It this the irresposible commander that does not surrender when their position becomes untenable.

I especially take exception when this France surrendering crap comes from a person whose nation wasn't even fediddleing involved in the war at that point.

How does this strike you, "Haha, Vietam to send ambasador to American, US surrenders, LOL" "Vietamese fire rifle in general direction of US, US surrenders, haha, fediddlein rutabagas." "Chenyan farts, Russian surrenders!" "Afganistani looks at Russia, Russians Surrender!". Pretty damn stupid isn't it?

"Germans enjoyed french hospitality." Oh did they? One wonders how German men and officers where assinated then. One wonders how rail road tracks, ammo depots, and communitcaions lines were destroyed. One wonders how downed allied pilots escaped France. Let me guess, it wasn't the French Resistance, it was ultra secret British and American resistance.

Yeah but there were no free French fighting for the allies, oh wait...there were.

French men and women risked and lost thier lives to help the allies, and here we spitting on there graves. Cripes.

Yes I know who the Vichy were. But to generalise about the French based on the Vichy's actions is a great disservce to the French that fought and died for the allied cause.

Curval · « **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2002, 05:01:17 PM »

I really like Straffo. My respect for him prevents me from responding.

Damn you Straffo...you have taken away one of my favourite hobbies, poking fun at the French.

MrLars · « **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2002, 05:36:05 PM »

Arrr,
Does that mean that the Swiss Bikini team will be changing their name...to the UNBikini team?

Let's hope so!

Arrr

Goth · « **Reply #19 on:** September 12, 2002, 05:48:11 PM »

Mmmm...I love hot chocolate

straffo · « **Reply #20 on:** September 13, 2002, 01:31:44 AM »

I would like to thank Thrawn and Curval for their really kind post.

It help me thinking that not all people are [insert pretty harsh derogatory comment here ]

thank again guys !

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #21 on:** September 13, 2002, 02:40:13 AM »

Hey, there's nothing wrong with the French.

Especially the female kind.

miko2d · « **Reply #22 on:** September 13, 2002, 08:11:36 AM »

Thrawn: I especially take exception when this France surrendering crap comes from a person whose nation wasn't even fediddleing involved in the war at that point.

If you referr to Soviet Union, which is where I came from, it was very well involved in war. Who do you think arranged for Hitler's election, trained their officers, than backed up Germany's tearing down of Versaille agreements and militarising, supplied them with food and resources and generally instigated the WWII so that they could stab Germany in the back and "liberate" Europe?
None other than Josef Stalin and his merry gang.

Oh, yeah - plenty of russians and ukrainians cooperated with teh nazis!

Or are you referring to my current homeland the US? It sucked too on many counts. As Churchill said, "you can always count on americans to do the right thing - after they've exausted the alternatives".

See? It's easy to admit my own country screwed up. Any country does - well, may be except Swiss.

I have nothing against France in particular. In fact it's my favorite vacation destination. I studied french for a while and I find french people were friendly and polite - not arrogant at all.
I loved France even before I read in Manstein's and Tippelskirch memoirs how they enjoyed french hospitality.

French history is not more rediculous than most other countries - just more known.

miko

-tronski- · « **Reply #23 on:** September 13, 2002, 08:58:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
For christ sake, as much Canada and France have had issues in the past, this is the whoopee limit. I sick and diddlyin' tired of the France surrendering BS. France and the BEF got there butts kicked in WW2. So fediddleing what. It this the irresposible commander that does not surrender when their position becomes untenable.

I especially take exception when this France surrendering crap comes from a person whose nation wasn't even fediddleing involved in the war at that point.

How does this strike you, "Haha, Vietam to send ambasador to American, US surrenders, LOL" "Vietamese fire rifle in general direction of US, US surrenders, haha, fediddlein rutabagas." "Chenyan farts, Russian surrenders!" "Afganistani looks at Russia, Russians Surrender!". Pretty damn stupid isn't it?

"Germans enjoyed french hospitality." Oh did they? One wonders how German men and officers where assinated then. One wonders how rail road tracks, ammo depots, and communitcaions lines were destroyed. One wonders how downed allied pilots escaped France. Let me guess, it wasn't the French Resistance, it was ultra secret British and American resistance.

Yeah but there were no free French fighting for the allies, oh wait...there were.

French men and women risked and lost thier lives to help the allies, and here we spitting on there graves. Cripes.

Yes I know who the Vichy were. But to generalise about the French based on the Vichy's actions is a great disservce to the French that fought and died for the allied cause.

Excellent points Thrawn...

At the very least there are plenty of Australians buried there, and that makes it worth something

Vive La France!

Tronsky

straffo · « **Reply #24 on:** September 13, 2002, 09:05:03 AM »

I've to admit that I over reacted here ...

You hurted a nerve.I must said that now I'm not as angry as yesterday and in fact I removed you from my ignore list this morning.

But reading your previous post I was figuring that you thinked (not sure of teh gramar ?) that the french citizen were waving german flag at Paris fall ,wich is far for truth.

Perhaps you didn't heard of the about 120000 soldier killed in the 6 weeks of the campaign of France ?

I do know that the attitude some french people were far from good during WWII (especially collaborating with the Gestapo or nazi in general) .

But a contrario some have given their life to save others ...

Again I'm sorry to have over reacted

miko2d · « **Reply #25 on:** September 13, 2002, 10:06:24 AM »

straffo: Again I'm sorry to have over reacted

That's the problem with posting - in personal conversation you can watch the reacton and clarify/expand a point right away before it gets out of hand.
I will try to be more clear.

miko

loser · « **Reply #26 on:** September 13, 2002, 10:55:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
For christ sake, as much Canada and France have had issues in the past, this is the whoopee limit. I sick and diddlyin' tired of the France surrendering BS. France and the BEF got there butts kicked in WW2. So fediddleing what. It this the irresposible commander that does not surrender when their position becomes untenable.

I especially take exception when this France surrendering crap comes from a person whose nation wasn't even fediddleing involved in the war at that point.

How does this strike you, "Haha, Vietam to send ambasador to American, US surrenders, LOL" "Vietamese fire rifle in general direction of US, US surrenders, haha, fediddlein rutabagas." "Chenyan farts, Russian surrenders!" "Afganistani looks at Russia, Russians Surrender!". Pretty damn stupid isn't it?

"Germans enjoyed french hospitality." Oh did they? One wonders how German men and officers where assinated then. One wonders how rail road tracks, ammo depots, and communitcaions lines were destroyed. One wonders how downed allied pilots escaped France. Let me guess, it wasn't the French Resistance, it was ultra secret British and American resistance.

Yeah but there were no free French fighting for the allies, oh wait...there were.

French men and women risked and lost thier lives to help the allies, and here we spitting on there graves. Cripes.

Yes I know who the Vichy were. But to generalise about the French based on the Vichy's actions is a great disservce to the French that fought and died for the allied cause.

Thanks Thrawn, once again you have done my typing for me

midnight Target · « **Reply #27 on:** September 13, 2002, 11:31:01 AM »

OK, enough of the huggy kissy. Yadda yadda we all really love the French and think Straffo is a great guy.

If it weren't for the French we wouldn't have:

Bic lighters
Yoplai Yogurt
Oral Sex - (developed out of necessity due to lack of genitalia of sufficient girth but well done non-the-less)
Safety razors
Canned food
Pastuerized milk
Goofy horizontal stripes on a shirt and berets.

did I forget anything?

Curval · « **Reply #28 on:** September 13, 2002, 12:34:26 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Safety razors

They invented them? Then why don't they use 'em?....the women, I mean;)

straffo · « **Reply #29 on:** September 13, 2002, 02:29:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval

They invented them? Then why don't they use 'em?....the women, I mean;)

err ...it was a men invention you know ....

and we have invented Feminism