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Offline MwRod

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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2002, 05:27:08 AM »
Hello  wanted Ideas on how to find out about this pilot, Not debate if or how. and yes its 120 mph fall.

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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2002, 05:49:03 AM »
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I was told pine trees are a better target to aim for than water if your chute fails. You'll smash youself up pretty good if you do manage to live through it but I read somewhere that statistically you stand a better chance of survival.  The soft branches slow you gradually over a 60ft drop.

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I wonder if HT will implement this theory in the next version of AH.......hmmm:p

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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2002, 04:21:19 PM »
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Rgr, anything is possible.
How about this, your planes crashes, you step off just as it hits the ground, do you live?



Simple physics.  Your plane is traveling at 100 MPH, if you are in the plane, you are also traveling at 100 MPH.

If the plane hits the ground at 100 mph, and you step off the plane 1 second before the plane hits the ground, you are still traveling at 100 mph (minus the frictional forces that would slow you down slightly after leaving the a/c)

So yeah, you're still dead

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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2002, 05:08:16 PM »
What if you jumped satraight up at the last possible second? That should neutralize the fall of the plane and leave you floating in the air for a moment before gravity regained control of you. The trick would be to wait until the last instant before you jumped up. Otherwise if you jump off the plane at 200 feet elevation you'd still fall 200 feet.

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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2002, 06:01:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
What if you jumped satraight up at the last possible second? That should neutralize the fall of the plane and leave you floating in the air for a moment before gravity regained control of you. The trick would be to wait until the last instant before you jumped up. Otherwise if you jump off the plane at 200 feet elevation you'd still fall 200 feet.




 How much force is needed to get your body to fall at however fast it would be falling if you jumped out of the plane?  I would imagine that you would have to jump with slightly more than that force.  Therefore I would imagine that your being an elf that your legs aren't that strong so you probably couldn't jump with enough force to counteract the gravity force and force from the airplane.  Therefore you'd still be dead.

 BUT :D

 Had you called yourself skywalker, Dvader, vader, anny, HandSolo, Leah or any other Star Wars name instead of Elfenwolf that you would instead be able to use the force instead of the force using you and then you'd probably still be alive.

 AND :D

 Since you're the only one here who's survived a long fall, please tell us how you did it. :eek:


:D

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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2002, 06:56:13 PM »
Who in the world can jump straight up at 100mph?

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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2002, 07:13:25 PM »
Is this a Monty Python sketch??

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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2002, 01:01:25 AM »
How about this, you have a big overcoat on and you jump out. Could you glide and slow yourself to the ground.

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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2002, 01:02:15 AM »
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
What if you jumped satraight up at the last possible second? That should neutralize the fall of the plane and leave you floating in the air for a moment before gravity regained control of you. The trick would be to wait until the last instant before you jumped up. Otherwise if you jump off the plane at 200 feet elevation you'd still fall 200 feet.


Ya Elfenwolf has it, the Elevator effect.

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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2002, 02:38:28 AM »
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
What if you jumped satraight up at the last possible second? That should neutralize the fall of the plane and leave you floating in the air for a moment before gravity regained control of you. The trick would be to wait until the last instant before you jumped up. Otherwise if you jump off the plane at 200 feet elevation you'd still fall 200 feet.



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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2002, 03:09:10 AM »
Work = Force * displacement (this applies only to straight upwards)

So if 90kg object wants to overcome 200kmh dive in one second, the equation looks like this:

W = 900n  * 55 meters (per Sec) =49500 nm

This isnt even enough, since force applies to both surfaces equally, which kills some of your work depending how heavy the object underneath is.

I highly doubt, that legs can produce over 49500 joules of energy in a second..:eek:
« Last Edit: September 25, 2002, 05:32:37 AM by Tuomio »

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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2002, 10:51:05 PM »
silly people. if you jumped off the plane 1 seconds before it hits the ground it wont matter how fast you go.

You'll be caught in the biggest fireball of your already ending life anyway.

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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2002, 10:57:15 PM »
Ah, yes... well damn those people who survived flying out of car windows at 120+MPH....

So you see, anything is possible depending on the sicheation.
-SW
ps: Piper cubs land at ~60mph, head on wrecks at +200MPH, people (namely drunks) still live through those, including the ones that fly out the window.

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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2002, 12:00:03 AM »
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silly people. if you jumped off the plane 1 seconds before it hits the ground it wont matter how fast you go.

You'll be caught in the biggest fireball of your already ending life anyway.


Not if you threw a big bucket of water up in the air just before you jumped.

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« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2002, 12:35:45 AM »
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Not if you threw a big bucket of water up in the air just before you jumped.


That would be impossible because the water is falling at the same rate you and the airplane are. I suggest turning off the motors before impact to reduce the chance of a fire.

Look, I realize the airplane would be tumbling and it would require split second timing, but theroretically if you were to jump straight up five feet from impact you would survive. Basically you are weightless while falling, so if you could jump up even a fraction of an inch as impact occured your weight would be neutralized. Maybe what the Marine pilot did was unstrap himself from the seat, crouch in the ready position and jumped as high as he could right before the impact. To offer any other explination other than mine for this pilot's survival of a three mile fall is asking me to believe the totally absurd. I'm not an idiot, people.