American cars are crap.

[whgates3]

H@h@, Ringo, you've been conquered.
rename that thing the 'sealion'

[J_A_B]

If I drove a VW I'd be ashamed to show my face in public, that's a woman's car  I think I could fit that go-kart into my Caddy's trunk.   The best part is my rear seats have more room than your FRONT seats    

No I don't own one of the newer bloated Cadillacs, I own one from the early '90's when they were actually pretty lightweight (3400 lbs) for such a large car.   It's not the fastest thing on the road (average I'd say, it was good in the early '90's but cars have generally gained power since then).  Speed doesn't matter a whole lot in the eastern US though unless you go to a track; I'd rather have a car with slab steel bumpers and decent mileage (25-27 MPG on the highway is not bad for a V-8).

As for new American cars....they have better quality than they used to, but look like CRAP (Pontiac Aztec anyone?).  Ford and GM should both shoot their design teams; GM especially has suffered from design teams who apparently don't live in the same world the rest of us do.  

J_A_B

[Curval]

British cars rule!

[N1kPaz]

my 77 dart was the BOMB...it could zero to 60 in less that 20 seconds...got more than 15 miles per gallon, and the styling was unbelievable...

on the upside...it had a slank six....


it rusted away before the engine was dead

[Tumor]

The great thing I found about Brit cars (in general) while I was over there (88-91) is you could go looking for a decent used car without having to pay out the nose for it. (very unlike the U.S. where everyone seem's to think the 10yr old rustbucket is worth 10 freekin grand).  They were easier to work on too!

[Dowding]

Tumor - used cars are even cheaper now - there was a crash in prices a couple of years ago and the market has stayed around the same level since.

[Modas]

Originally posted by lazs2
pretty hard to find any American car worth a damn from 74 to about 84... course.... no british cars could come into the country because they simply couldn't meet all the standards that American cars of the era were saddled with...   Now, if you took one of the older british cars that you are talking about and retarde the timing to 0 degrees or even a little less  like the retrofit smog kits were forcinfg older car owners to do to pass smog.... well, it would make a crappy little car even crappier.

Things started to turn around for tha average American buyer in about 84 when the 302 (5 liter) mustang came out.   If you want to bur rubber.... you shoulda found one of them.    Everyone else followed suit.   74-84 were dark days.    I had no problem since I drove older cars that I retuned after they passed smog.
lazs

Oh, I don't know...  I had a 78' Old Cutlass Supreme with a v-8 (t-tops and everything) that I put about 200k miles on it before I sold it for parts cuz the frame was rusting out.  Only thing I ever did to that car was tires, oil and a new tranny.

Course the tranny was my fault after doing reverse drops in it like you see in the movies...

[SirLoin]

I work at Ford...Believe me when I say management's slogan on the shop floor is "Quantity Is Job 1".

That replaced the previous saying of.."You won't see that at 55mph"

[Karnak]

I'll never buy another Ford.  Love my Toyota though.

In my mind, if you want a car that will last buy a Toyota, Honda, BMW or Mercedes.  German or Japanese is the way to go. Steer clear of American, British, French or Korean cars.

[Thorns]

I read you first post, and thought.........this guy is from PEORIA!

Could you name more lame vehicles?

When you get to the Autobahn, don't forget the Nitrous!  G/L!



Thorns

[cobra427]

i dont know much about cars cause im only 16 but my dad tild me that any car ... US or not US made made after 1970 is junk .... but then again he loves old cars he had a 68 camaro said it was one of the best cars he ever had ...except the 54 crown V .... but that was his first car he calls vetts fiberglass coffins ..... but as i said he is a nut for old cars .... thats just him

and well it wore off on me .... i had a 1968 datsun when i was 14 couldent drive it i wasnt old enough but i love to get in it and start it up ...... was a 1968 datsun pickup the guy that owned it before me did a lil modify'n to it had a 88 jet turbo engine ...dont know why its called a jet engine ... didnt see any afterburners till ya lit the tires .... he said he used to drag race it in his town fair ... had everything a 14 year old kid thought a cool car should have ..wheely bars a rollcage scoop on the hood the rear was jacked up .... it was perfect

but it didnt matter if it was mad in japan ... i think thats where datsun is from... or the US ... it just depends on what you want in a car you want class get a beemer ..bmw... you want cool looks and reliability get just about any car from 1930-1960 if you want something for the girls to say awww how cute  ... get a old beetle like herby on the movie ... i love them things

it just depends on what you want in a car

[BUG_EAF322]

If it is you, lol check out any Junk yard.... lol you will find no car more numerous then old bugs. lol I guess they found the proper home!   (I could be wrong, maybe it is just my local junk yards, but man, hundreds of them!)

Where ?

On the yunkyards here all beetles are ripped for spare parts u cannot find any here. While it's the most-,longest and still builded car .

Al because beetles never die it's a desease once caught u never want different.

The VW Golf type 4 is the finest golf i ever drove.
Since my parents bought one they drive VW also always never changed brand.

Why? VW's and other german cars are simply the best.

I drive my beetle for seven years now and still love it. I know my beetle very well and really know how to corner it

For the winter and my baby i have a ford fiesta 1.1  it's cheap and warm
 
hey it works

And now drool one some beetle pic.

[beet1e]

karnak

In my mind, if you want a car that will last buy a Toyota, Honda, BMW or Mercedes. German or Japanese is the way to go. Steer clear of American, British, French or Korean cars.

Agreed - 100%.

Dowding - the Golf is indeed the V6 4-Motion, 2.8i. You were partly right. They didn't introduce them to England till 2001, although I saw a LHD one at the 1999 Frankfurt motor show. Seems that there was a delay on introducing RHD, with only the V5 available. That was not what I wanted, so I hung on to the VR6 until March last year. To bring the price into line with Europe, VW chopped £3000 off the price, and I actually paid less for that Golf than the VR6 3½ years earlier!

J_A_B

I think I could fit that go-kart into my Caddy's trunk. The best part is my rear seats have more room than your FRONT seats

Oh yeah. Well I'm 6'1" in height, 220lbs, and I have more than enough room. With the driver's seat positioned where I have it, I can myself sit in the rear seat behind it, and still have enough room.

Try driving that barge of yours on English roads. Can you imagine how tricky it would be to park? I can make U-turns in some cases that would see your Caddy making a 7-point turn - LOL

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Curval
British cars rule!

That's a nice Bentley Curval.

Though no where near a Bentley, this 1973 Olds 98 runs well for an old car.

[airspro]

I love my new Golf , it's only a GLS but it's so fun to drive and gets 30 mph to boot .

That said I have had and own Ford products and they make a good product that lasts . My Ranger pickup I drove for 16 years without hardly any thing going wrong with it .

My wife drives a 2002 Taurus and it's nice but I have more leg room in my Golf

I tell people the Golf like a go cart with a 750 cc Honda motorcycle engine in it , hehe . I love the sound when you get on it .