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Offline Urchin

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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« on: October 02, 2002, 05:34:20 PM »
The plane isn't any good.  All of the US planes carry far more bombs.  All of the Allied plane can carry rockets.  The 110 is made out of some wierd substance, like glass or maybe hardened paper.  It got 5,402 kills last tour, compared to 7,267 for the 190A5 (ENY 36), 7,156 for the 190a8 (ENY 35), 13,119 for the P-38 (ENY 22), 7,556 for the P-47D-30 (ENY 30), 19,935 for the Typhoon (ENY 24).  All of the above will handily kick the toejam out of the 110G2 in a fight.  The only ENY value that makes LESS sense is the 190F8, which had a whopping 928 kills last tour.  It has an ENY value of 25.

Lower the ENY value on the 110G2 and 190F8 to make them worth flying, or give them some rockets so people don't have to try to use the worthless cannons on GVs once they run out of all 1 or 2 of the useful bombs.

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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2002, 08:29:55 PM »
That 190f8 sure seems to get up real good though, and if your a decent pilot.. you can jack some people up but thats looking at it from the Fighter Mode type of view.   Just thought i would put my 2 cents in =)

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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2002, 08:45:09 PM »
When they last set ENY values the Bf110G-2 had just been released and was seeing heavy usage.

It needs to be adjusted.

BTW, no Allied fighter carries as many bombs as the Bf110G-2.  True, they do carry rockets as well, but the Bf110G-2's cannon more than make up the difference.  The BF110G-2 is the single most potent Jabo aircraft from the stand point of how many pounds of damage it can do in total, something like 8,500lbs.

If you think the Bf110G-2 is fragile (an aircraft that had a reputation for fragility), try the Mosquito (an aircraft that had a reputation for durability).
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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2002, 09:22:16 PM »
P47 carries MORE bombs AND rockets than the 110, plus it is 10 times as tough, and it would whip the toejam out of a 110 in a fight.

P38 carries slightly less bombs, but it has 10 rockets to make up for it.  Plus it is something like a million times tougher.  

The guns don't make up for jack.  The guns are only useful for destroying buildings with, you can't hurt a tank with them.  Well, I take that back.  The cannons on the 110 are about 1/3rd as useful for killing tanks with as .50s and Hispanos are.  Eventually you can disable the tank, you'll never blow it up.  Of course, it took me 4 passes to disable the tank, and it took him two passes to blow my tail off.... as I was diving on him shooting.

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2002, 09:33:58 PM »
Bf110G-2 carries a max of 2,640lbs of bombs.

The P-47D-30 carries 2,500lbs.

I stated that the rockets more than made the difference, but I strongly disagree with you about straffing.  The Bf110G-2's firepower is leathal to anything short of a PnZ IV H, though you must be accurate against the Ostwind.  Anything else is deadmeat.
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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2002, 09:53:39 PM »
Not in ah karnak the 110 carries 2400lbs. The kg weight hasnt been fixed.

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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2002, 10:21:58 PM »
The 110g2 is one hell of a dog fighter in the proper hands.  It has leathel firepower, decent speed and good acceleration.  It also has execellent fuel range.

  When im in the mood, I will flat out turn fight the 110 with suprising results;)

  I think stats on the 110 are very deciving due to the fact that that most people use it for jabo duty, not fighter duty.  

  You may disagree, but I feel that the 110g2 is a VERY capeable fighter.  Hence its eny value.

  Thx ...Duck

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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2002, 03:51:23 AM »
Unfortunately, the "good hands" which can use the Bf110G-2 as a great A2A fighter would probably be able to use the Hurri2D and achieve a 40:1 K/D ratio.

 As my materialistic way of thinking would suggest :) , "It's the machine, not the man" in most cases.

 Therefore, in evaluating an aircraft, the "pilot factor" is really an irrelvant matter which should be left out totally. The Bf110G-2 is a good JABO plane, but not in anyway which it should fly with just 20 ENY.

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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2002, 04:25:31 AM »
sheesh why do we bother.


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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2002, 10:03:12 AM »
I like furballing in my 110.
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ENY value of 20 for 110G2 why?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2002, 12:07:41 PM »
Well the 110 is the uber LW bomber confetti maker. The 190F8 on the other hand with its uselessness in AH should have a much higher ENY to motivate the use of it,but :D when will that happen God  only knows.