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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2002, 05:27:57 PM »
Sorry ammo. I must have been reading a different thread..
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« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2002, 05:51:08 PM »
Is this my old Beta friend "Pongo" who used to terrorize the neighborhood in a Corsair?
Geez, what happened to you? You used to be a nice guy and far from the free flaming attitude you just displayed. Give me my Pongo back! Exooooorcist!!!
Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2002, 06:15:37 PM »
Pongo--

You have a corn cob jammed in your anus or something?  You have a problem with me or my squad?  hubzemke1@netscape.net
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« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2002, 07:16:36 PM »
Frenchy ammo..
read this.
"Few squads in Aces High are true to their name. I was computing the stats of September for our pilots, and thought I would share them with you guys. I'm proud to be part of this squad where all pilots always stayed dedicated to their squad name and aircraft for more than a year.
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Ammo. is that not chest thumping...

read my reply
"you guys fly jugs and that cool. It adds to your fun and thats cool.
But that is so far from being a TRUE historical squad that it defies description.
Be proud of yourself if you like, enjoy your self and fill your boots. But there isnt a shred more truth in your squad then any other.
"
sorry if you feel you have to be the best. Or any disagreement with you makes me a bad person.
I will reply to all 56th posts in the future with..
"Yes the 56th rules"
that ok then?
yeesh

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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2002, 07:36:16 PM »
Nothing wrong with a little chest-thumping now and again.  The 56th does an extraordinary job flying the P-47 in a Main Arena filled with planes that do just about everything better than their ride of choice.  Am I impressed by them?  Hell yes, but I've always been.  They are very good pilots, and good people too.

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« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2002, 07:48:06 PM »
Did I mention we really like to shoot chutes?

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« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2002, 07:50:05 PM »
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Frenchy ammo..
read this.
"Few squads in Aces High are true to their name. I was computing the stats of September for our pilots, and thought I would share them with you guys. I'm proud to be part of this squad where all pilots always stayed dedicated to their squad name and aircraft for more than a year.
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Ammo. is that not chest thumping...


In order for it to be chest thumping, you must subscribe to the idea that flying the historical plane of a namesake squadron is the goal of flying AH. You do not seem to subscribe to that idea, so I don't see what knotted your shorts.  

Frenchy wants to know what other squads are like minded. but you just want to be the tear in their condom.

Good job

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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2002, 09:16:13 PM »
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You would be randomly assigned a leader from the other players and if you didn't do what he said or keep him happy he would put you on latrines for a week.


Pongo - You obviously haven't flown with Ammo as the flight lead :-)) But seriously, I think the thread was about staying true to the plane type of the squad you chose to fly with, assuming that squad is a historical squad. It doesn't make any of us better pilots then anyone else, even in our ride of choice. Hell I had TracerX had me my prettythang in a jug once and that is my ride of choice. There is a certain amount of respect from me for pilots that fly the ride of there historic squad. I think in our case it has forced many of us 56th guys to learn how to fly well as a group due to the planes weaknesses in an arena like the MA.

Also keep in mind that 56th pilots are not required to fly only the Jug in the MA. Many of us fly other planes as well, but when we wing up it's a Jug fest.

Urchin - Thanks for the kind words bud. Your S!! the other night after I landed a multiple kill run was a class act.

Last but not least, fly what you want and have fun doing it. Unless of course it's an LA7 or a Niki, if that's the case you a DWEEEEEEEEEEB!!!!! :-))

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« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2002, 09:55:06 PM »
Sikboy... chest thumping is saying "Look at what we can do".  That is exactly what Frenchy is doing.  There is nothing wrong with it.  As I said before, they do a remarkable job with a relatively unremarkable aircraft.  While some people may think they are looking for attention (and maybe they are, who knows), I think they rightly deserve some.  There are a lot of people who can't maintain a 1/1 KD in planes like the La7, P51D, or 190D9.  The 56th maintains a better than 3/1 KD in the P47.  I've had some great fights with them in the MA and the DA, and they are truly awesome pilots and people.

Pongo...  

"a : of, relating to, or having the character of history b : based on history"

What do you think that is the defintion of?  Thats right, historical.  Do you or do you not think a group of pilots flying together in a P-47, having the squad name of the 56th FG "Zemkes Wolfpack" is related to, or has the character of history?  To say nothing of being based on history.

Hell, my squad can't even claim that.  Or maybe we can, I don't know what planes 3/JG2 flew.  
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« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2002, 10:25:21 PM »
As much as I have had disagreements with ammo over petty crap him and his squadmates do some remarkable thing in the jug.

They are great sports and even better pilots. As urchin said they make a less the spectacular "arena" plane do awesome things.

Frenchy has had my numbers for years, I still cant forgive him for Big Week  ;)

S! 56th wtfg.............

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« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2002, 10:43:34 PM »
thx Urchin. I appreciate those kind words!
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« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2002, 11:50:39 PM »
Wow.
nothing against the 56th at all.
I just think sticking to a common Aircraft is a long way from being a true historical squad. I know they enjoy it and thats great. they are great sticks in any plane and thats great.
Declaring it supperior in some way and flaming people that disagree is a bit extreme..

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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2002, 01:01:34 AM »
I'm not flaming you, just disagreeing.  I think, maybe I'm wrong, that you are taking umbrage at Frenchy's remark that he takes pride in the fact that his squad flies what their namesake flew.  I don't think there is anything wrong with him thinking of people in "JG" or "VMF" or whatever squads consistantly flying N1Ks and La7s as being slightly cheesy.  Whether I'd meet his definition of cheesy or not doesn't really bother me to be honest (I've spent most of the last 2 tours flying non-German stuff, but flying the same plane month after month gets a little boring for me).

He isn't saying that they are 'superior' to anyone, he is saying that he wishes more people in 'historical' squads would fly what their namesake flew.  I actually used to feel pretty strongly like he does, now I don't really care.  

And again, flying a common plane that was flown by a real life squadron that your 'virtual' squadron takes it name from appears to be the only way you could call your squadron a 'historical' one.

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« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2002, 07:17:50 AM »
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He isn't saying that they are 'superior' to anyone...


And this is why I myself wouldn't carachtorize it as chest thumping. However I think we agree on all other points.


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« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2002, 10:11:03 AM »
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