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Offline booyall1

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help with fps
« on: October 02, 2002, 12:12:06 AM »
got a vid p6bat-me mother board, gforce 420 mx agp vid card,celeron  pross.olny getting 8 to 21 fps, down loaded all update driver for chip set vid card any ideas:confused:conection is broadband
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Offline Hussein

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2002, 01:39:06 AM »
Never heard of that motherboard, does it use DDR?
Which speed celeron?
The 420MX is a piece of crap it's about as slow as Geforce2MX LOL.

Never ever buy anything from nvidia that is labeled MX. It means it's labeled with the new models but lacks all the goodies.

What OS you use etc.. need the info..
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Offline SKurj

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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2002, 04:24:08 PM »
Ignore hussein .. he knows not what he is talking about with regards to MX cards.

My MX pushes framerates to 110+ in AH

WHat are the rest of your system specs?  
CPU?


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Offline booyall1

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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2002, 08:06:54 PM »
skurj good to here, bare with me not much with computer.
motherboard-via p6bat-me 5.5
chipset elite group-82c693/596a
processor-celeron 500mhz
vid card-gforce4 mx420 64mb
sound card-soundblaster live
network card- d-link dfe-530
network- at&t broadband
system 98 se


thank you for replaying hope this help and u can help with this problem im having did not want to through away every thing i got

thank you boo.
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Offline boxboy28

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2002, 12:03:39 PM »
I'ld say your week link is the CPU!

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Dunno about frame rates...
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2002, 03:13:01 PM »
I have the following...

2.53Ghz Pentium 4
1Gig Memory
GeForce TI4600 128mb
Soundblaster Audigy
500k minimum network connection(partial T1)
Windows XP

The best frame rate I can attain in AH is 75fps!

Now, it never changes..it's always 75fps so it's not that bad.

Any ideas?
NH
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Offline Hussein

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2002, 03:41:39 PM »
Nhawk thats because your refresh rate is 75hz and you have vsync enabled.

Skurj: Who doesn't know his stuff? Picture this.

Notice especially the very sucking score compared to the two _older generation_ graphics cards.
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Offline bloom25

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2002, 03:43:38 PM »
Simple NH, your monitor refresh rate is 75 Hz.  The people getting really high framerates either have more expensive monitors that will do 120 Hz refresh rates, or they turned vertical-sync off.  (I do not advise doing that, it works your system harder and does not increase your true framerate.  Only parts of the frame are refreshed as your monitor still only draws a complete frame 75 times a second.  It can also cause tearing and other graphics issues.)
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Offline bloom25

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2002, 03:49:46 PM »
It might be worth mentioning that there are three different GeForce 4 MX models (420, 440, and 460).

The 420 uses SDRAM and is barely faster than a GeForce 2 MX.

The 440 uses low speed DDR SDRAM and performs signficantly better.

The 460 also uses DDR SDRAM and performs similarly to the GeForce 3 Ti 200 at lower resolutions.

SKurj, I'm guessing you are not using a MX 420 model...
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Offline Hussein

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2002, 04:04:10 PM »
Oh yeah and fps wise..

This is the heart of your problem:

motherboard-via p6bat-me 5.5
chipset elite group-82c693/596a
processor-celeron 500mhz

Motherboard with less than optimal chipset, celeron 500 (badly outdated cpu for games.)

That combination probably kills your system performance enough to get that low fps even from MX420. You should be getting 80-90 high and 30-40 in smoke online, that is if you could feed the GPU with 1 Ghz processing power.

So, in addition of having the lowest cost and probably also slowest 3D display card on the market today, the rest of your peripherals need updating badly. It's also possible that your motherboard needs special drivers to function properly, make sure you have those installed. Lacking on those may hurt your performance even further.
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Offline NHawk

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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2002, 05:05:52 PM »
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Simple NH, your monitor refresh rate is 75 Hz.  The people getting really high framerates either have more expensive monitors that will do 120 Hz refresh rates, or they turned vertical-sync off.  (I do not advise doing that, it works your system harder and does not increase your true framerate.  Only parts of the frame are refreshed as your monitor still only draws a complete frame 75 times a second.  It can also cause tearing and other graphics issues.)


Duh...it was a simple as that.

Changed refresh rate to 100 Hz and now I get 100 fps.

Thanks,
NH
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2002, 07:01:53 PM »
Your cpu is the big problem booyall

Time to spend some pennies on a cpu upgrade




Guys ... I don't make a habit of slammin someone for something they have ALREADY purchased. In this case it is unproductive on the grandest scale.

(yeah 440 mx 64mb ddr here and no regrets whatsoever, when i graduate I will just go buy a Ti for 1/2 the price current owners paid)

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