Legal ramifications of killing the neighbor's dog - any?

[gofaster]

Originally posted by capt. apathy
you could take the owner to court for the repair bill. but good luck try'n to prove it was his dog. plus when you say you heard 2 dogs and his was only one of them (and you didn't acually see it happen) I imagine they could make it hard for you to win.

but if the dog chases people and you seen it loose and went outside to 'change a tire' or whatever and happened to have a tire iron in your hand.  odds are you could get away with deffending yourself in just about any state.

Both dogs were his.  He's already admitted it was his dog(s) and the paw prints are unmistakable.  I think he'll do the right thing.   But just to be on the safe side, my wife wrote a statement for him to sign next time we see him.

Yes, the black dog chases people.  The Australian shepherd is smart enough to leave people alone, but the black retriever will bark at anything that moves - instinct of the breed, I guess.

Its Autumn and time for seasonal vehicle maintenance.  I need to pull the spare tire out from under the truck bed to make sure its properly inflated.  Its a tough job and could require a crowbar to crank it down from its perch....

[SC-Sp00k]

Austrian Shepherd methinks...We dont have Shepherds as a National breed.  Think Arnie, not Dundee.

[midnight Target]

Australian Shepard is like a Border Collie Spook.

"Despite it's name, the Australian Shepherd as we know it today was developed completely within the United States. In the late 1800's and early 1900's the for-runners of today's "Aussies" came to the western and north-western states as stock-dogs for the Basque shepherds that accompanied the vast numbers of sheep then being imported from Australia. These hard working, medium sized, "little blue dogs" impressed the American ranchers and farmers, who began using them as well. Breeding was done for working ability rather than appearance, and occasionally dogs of other herding breeds were bred into the lines. However, today s Aussie still resembles the dogs that came from Europe via Australia, and great numbers of Aussies are still working stock on ranches in the western states."

[gofaster]

The shepherd is about the size of the retriever, but with longer fur and a mottled black/white coat.  Its the same type I've seen used for giving Frisbee dog demonstrations and herding livestock in mountainous terrain.  I think it does resemble a border collie in its general size and shape.  Its obviously a smart animal in that it knew that if it didn't do what I wanted, it could very well end up looking at the wrong end of my aluminum bat at one point during its lifespan.

[rickod]

take some hamburger and roll a small meat ball no bigger than an inch and a half across see toss one to the dogs and see if they sniff it or gulp it down if they gulp it down   then make a couple more with some chrystal draino the powdered kind in the center 1 teaspoon make four balls make sure they gulp them down dont wanna leave a sample where it can be tested an all

and toss them to the dogs they will be dead by morning

[Curval]

Originally posted by rickod
take some hamburger and roll a small meat ball no bigger than an inch and a half across see toss one to the dogs and see if they sniff it or gulp it down if they gulp it down   then make a couple more with some chrystal draino the powdered kind in the center 1 teaspoon make four balls make sure they gulp them down dont wanna leave a sample where it can be tested an all

and toss them to the dogs they will be dead by morning

What is scary is that it sounds as if you have experience doing this..were all the dogs pests that you did this to? Or, did you kill some children's pets too?

[funkedup]

Dogs are vermin.

[capt. apathy]

Rickod,
  Having grown up on a farm I've had to 'put down' quit a few animals.  Everything from shooting my own animals who have become injured.  Or dogs who I adopted and couldn't overcome their behavior problems (chasing domestic animals, or unstable behavior making them dangerous), or killing diseased or nuisance animals that show up.  I've also hunted most of my life (can't find the time anymore) & even ran traps in my teenage years.  
  But what you describe is the most disgusting death I could wish on anything.  If you've ever actually done this you ought to be knocked on your ass.
 If you need to kill an animal, kill it.  Step up, be a man, do the job, and take responsibility for it. If you have to arrange the situation to avoid legal problems, so be it.
 But feeding that crap to an animal so it's guts can dissolve from the inside out is probably one of the most horrible things I could think of.
 Poison is the tool of a coward.

[lord dolf vader]

I second that, if you must shoot the animal be decent about it.

if you dont and your not a evil bastard it will haunt you.

[StSanta]

Go through the legal system. The dog ain't at fault as such - the owner is. Punish the owner, not the dog.

If authorities feel the dog needs to die, they'll do it.

At least here in communist Denmark where such things as dangerous dogs actually are dealth with by the authorities.

If I had a barky dog and someone shot it, I can guaran-fediddleing-tee that that person would be the target of a campaign of my own - and it'd be a sneaky, expensive (not for me though) one.

Think about the latter if not the former .

[gofaster]

Poison is for wimps.  Real men aren't afraid to shed a little blood when blood needs to be shed.  I ain't no Lucretia Borgia!

I spoke with the owner yesterday regarding covering the repair bill and he's ok with the plan: he cuts check to body shop, they do what work needs to be done and refunds to him the portion for work not done.  The downside is he can't cut a check until he gets paid on Friday, which isn't so bad since the shop can't get to the work until Monday anyway.  Jesus would have a kind heart and trust him, but Joe Don Baker would keep a baseball bat handy just in case.  Then again, Jesus wasn't stomped to within an inch of his life by the Dixie Mafia, so maybe Jesus would've endorsed a "big stick" policy, too.

[gofaster]

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by gofaster
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I spoke with the owner yesterday regarding covering the repair bill and he's ok with the plan: he cuts check to body shop, they do what work needs to be done and refunds to him the portion for work not done.  

Good you got it worked out.  You should also stick him with any rental charges you incur while your truck is being fixed.

[gofaster]

No rental.  Everything I need is within bicycle distance.  I'll work from home for a few days and force the wife to run the heavy errands in her new Xterra.

[gofaster]

So the dog's owner tells my wife yesterday that he'll leave a check in our mailbox to give to the body shop.  He's flying out at 7am Friday morning for the weekend and he says he'll leave the check in our box at 4:30am on his way to the airport.

She gets up at 7am and checks the mailbox.  Nothing in there.  She calls his cell phone and gets his phonemailbox and leaves a message.  After she hangs up she turns to me and says "you know, when I spoke to him yesterday he made the comment 'are you sure it was my dog?'  I should've suspected he was trying to get out of it!".

My logic: if it wasn't his dog, then he won't mind if it gets picked up by Animal Control, or is otherwise removed from the neighborhood.