Author Topic: U.S. going to invade Iraq? Doubt it (Read 272 times)

fdiron · « **on:** October 08, 2002, 05:06:34 AM »

I really doubt the U.S. will invade Iraq. I really think Bush is just bluffing. Lets take some predictions here and in a few months we will see who is right.

Fdiron- No

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2002, 05:08:35 AM »

Yeah, let's run a sweepstake on who gets to go die in some faraway land for no particular reason at all.

Innominate · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2002, 05:27:17 AM »

There is little doubt that special forces are already there.

There is already a large buildup going on in the middle east, that has been for quite some time.

I think that Bush is planning on invading, regardless of what Iraq does.(Short of saddam leaving willingly) For better or for worse, my money is on us going in.

Animal · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2002, 05:35:14 AM »

I dont know about invasion, but there will be a ruthless attack. Bush, in his long speech yesterday, was just saying between lines that we are going to attack soon.

If after the attack there is an invasion and a dummy goverment is instituted, it will be a new low in American history IMO.

Using the deaths of many in 9/11 as an oportunity to justify a blitzkrieg style invasion.

Sorry Bush but I dont buy it. Maybe Iraq provides help to terrorists like many other goverments, but deep within, this upcoming war has little to do with terrorism, and more to do with primal chest thumping.

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Oh, and by the way, its NUCLEAR. Not Nucular.

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fdiron · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2002, 06:20:39 AM »

Dowding, you are the biggest whiney-weiner I have come across on these boards. Please stop posting your rubbish in my threads.

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2002, 06:50:38 AM »

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you are the biggest whiney-weiner...

What kind of an insult is that?! You'll be saying I smell of poo, next. Please don't - I'll get my dad onto you. He's bigger than your dad.

Besides, I can't stop posting in your threads. I find them irresistable. They are always so righteous and hopeful.

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.

Eagler · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2002, 07:45:20 AM »

who cares as long as our goals are accomplished

the end justifies the means

the end being freedom and protection for the cits of the US and the rest of the free world, whether they want it or not

Goth · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2002, 07:53:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Animal
I dont know about invasion, but there will be a ruthless attack. Bush, in his long speech yesterday, was just saying between lines that we are going to attack soon.

If after the attack there is an invasion and a dummy goverment is instituted, it will be a new low in American history IMO.

Using the deaths of many in 9/11 as an oportunity to justify a blitzkrieg style invasion.

Sorry Bush but I dont buy it. Maybe Iraq provides help to terrorists like many other goverments, but deep within, this upcoming war has little to do with terrorism, and more to do with primal chest thumping.

-edit-
Oh, and by the way, its NUCLEAR. Not Nucular.

nu·cle·ar
noo... cle... are...

You may be right Animal, but guess what. I don't care what the reasons are. I hope they don't institute a puppet government, I hope they turn it into a big glass parkinglot, that way we won't have to construct runways on our way to global conquering.

I'm going to take the typical American opinion on this one. Burn Baby Burn!!

Lance · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2002, 08:33:06 AM »

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who cares as long as our goals are accomplished

the end justifies the means

I hope those here that think we are sabre rattling are right. But I have my doubts. If we were sabre rattling, we would leave Saddam an out and let him take it. As it is, when Saddam tries to blink and back down (i.e. letting inspectors come back unconditionally), we put forth more vague demands.

But lets say that we are really just bluffing hard. What if Saddam doesn't submit to our rules? What then? We've told a homicidal dictator who controls significant stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that he is going down. If he is capable of everything we say he is, then you have to certainly allow for the fact that when push comes to shove, he will use those weapons.

At that point, either WE blink, or we march our troops into easy deployment range of those weapons that he has that can somewhat counter our technological superiority in conventional arms.

Personally, I am going to wait to learn what the end is and the costs involved before I say the means are justified.

Mr. Blonde · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2002, 10:42:39 AM »

screw the sweepstakes lets send dowding

btw dowding you just made the book you're first against the wall when i come into power

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2002, 10:46:38 AM »

Saddam's been playing hopscotch with the UN for the past 11 years.

It's time for him to either abide by the rules, or go the way of the Dodo.
-SW

Sandman · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2002, 03:18:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
who cares as long as our goals are accomplished

the end justifies the means

the end being freedom and protection for the cits of the US and the rest of the free world, whether they want it or not

Damn straight baby... and exit strategy? Shut the hell up... we're staying for the duration...

Oops... let's go for the more somber mood... can somebody cue the National Anthem... you know... the good one with Whitney at the Super Bowl...

Hangtime · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2002, 04:51:36 PM »

I pity those of us (including myself) that live downwind from or in a major city.

If we pull out the can of whup bellybutton and don't chop off all of saddams button pushing fingers before he can use 'em, we're in fer a whole world of toejam methinks.

literally.

that said, I'm fer nukin the patch of iraq that saddams expected to be in, along with the next 10 most likely places.

...and while we're in the message sending mode, lets nuke Paris, New Deli, Peking and Tokyo.

Sandman · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2002, 05:04:47 PM »

Vulcan · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2002, 05:17:02 PM »

Its pretty simple to see whats happening if you read carefully between the lines.

The US know a rough date when Saddam will go fully nuke or biochem capable. My guess is Q1 2003. The US have to attack before then, if they don't then the whole thing is off. Its likely that post Q1 2003 any attack by the US would meet some sort of NBC response from Saddam, and the US analysts would know the casaulties would be massive on the US side.

So its either now or never.

So what if its never? Well, Saddam will go from strength to strength. Most of Arab countries are scared of him. Not only because of his NBC capabilities and willingness to use them, but because of the fact he has toejamloads of supports in these countries.

So his first move will be to re-acquire Kuwait. Plus a little Saudi territory is my guess. This will be his 'testing' of the waters. If the US and Saudi's fail to respond in force, then he will see this as an indicator of his strength. At this stage he would have considerable NBC capability and its doubtfull the US will have any interest in dying en masse.

Next move is a choice - Israel or Iran, at the right moment (ie Israelis shoot some palestianians) he provokes the Israeli's into an all out war. The Egyptians and Syrians allie with Iraq and blow the toejam out of Israel. The war potentially goes nuke but Iraq is prepared to go down that avenue IMHO.

Sounds kind of airey-fairey but this guy has attacked other nations without remorse, as well as used bio and chem weapons without a second thought.

Saddam wants power, wants $$$$, and wants land. Hes playing a waiting game, the longer he drags the issues out the more options he has to weazel into the position of power.