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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #120 on: October 11, 2002, 02:23:55 PM »
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I also believe that I'd rather take a hit and then erase the offending country off the face of the planet then go about eradicating "potential" threats that have absolutely no reason to welcome the heavy hand of U.S. involvement in their conflicts.


And if that country uses terrorist groups to deliver WMD to the US? How you gonna trace it?  Then what?
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« Reply #121 on: October 11, 2002, 02:24:52 PM »
Follow the money. Always follow the money.
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« Reply #122 on: October 11, 2002, 02:26:38 PM »
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Mob Mentality


No thank you.


Certainly tragic ...however...

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The Tulsa commission is scheduled to release its final report on the riot in January. For many of the survivors, the issue is not money -- they want an apology.


I call BS.  This is a typical Lawyer tactic, get them to admit guilt by apology, then sue the toejam out of them after the published apology. Makes your case for you.  Don't ever be fooled EVERYTHING revolves around $$, everything....
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« Reply #123 on: October 11, 2002, 02:27:27 PM »
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Follow the money. Always follow the money.


Agreed! Thats why the money trail ends in Iraq, sir.
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« Reply #124 on: October 11, 2002, 02:28:24 PM »
sandman... are you saying that it is not possible or legal that some armed citizen may take out the sniper?   If he shoots from a building he might find himself at the buissiness end of a pistol or shotgun.   Citizens stop a million crime a year with firearms.. don't see why this guy would be immune.

you are right tho.. just buying a firearm is no guarentee of safety... I mean not like having a police force and a strong government but.... It is a start.  Hopefully, the new owners will take the time to familiarize themselves with their new purchase and learn to appreciate  and respect it.  Even if only half of them get over their gunaphobia it will have been a little silver lining in this whole unfortunate and tragic mess.

and sandman... as your breasts get larger you may want to consider either firearms training or simply, baggy clothes and refraining from walking around unescorted at night.
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« Reply #125 on: October 11, 2002, 02:37:03 PM »
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sandman... are you saying that it is not possible or legal that some armed citizen may take out the sniper?   If he shoots from a building he might find himself at the buissiness end of a pistol or shotgun.   Citizens stop a million crime a year with firearms.. don't see why this guy would be immune.


It's typically the position of the police that this is the last thing they want, misguided vigilante justice.

From a police standpoint, anyone with a rifle is a suspect.

Nice jab, Laz2... it's not a noodle thing. It's a target sorting problem. You're not helping the police by acting like one.
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« Reply #126 on: October 11, 2002, 02:40:22 PM »
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Agreed! Thats why the money trail ends in Iraq, sir.


That's the story anyway... still waiting for the proof.
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« Reply #127 on: October 11, 2002, 02:43:11 PM »
sandman... police do not want people roaming the street in "vigilante" mobs no doubt but.... you are wrong about police views on armed citizens and their value.   Police officers recognize the value of armed citizens and encourage people to arm themselves.
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« Reply #128 on: October 11, 2002, 02:45:12 PM »
oh... and the "jab" was not a noodle thing.   I was just refering to your use of pot.
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« Reply #129 on: October 11, 2002, 02:46:58 PM »
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That's the story anyway... still waiting for the proof.


Something tells me that they could have film of money transfers from Saddams hands to Bin Ladens hands and you still wouldn't believe it (I only wish the trail was that simple, too)
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« Reply #130 on: October 11, 2002, 02:47:05 PM »
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sandman... police do not want people roaming the street in "vigilante" mobs no doubt but.... you are wrong about police views on armed citizens and their value.   Police officers recognize the value of armed citizens and encourage people to arm themselves.
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No argument... but there is a limit. Once you leave the home with a loaded weapon, you are now potentially one of the "bad" guys.

Oh... and I don't use pot. My employer frowns on such activity.
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« Reply #131 on: October 11, 2002, 02:49:06 PM »
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Something tells me that they could have film of money transfers from Saddams hands to Bin Ladens hands and you still wouldn't believe it (I only wish the trail was that simple, too)


Well... it would take a little bit to sell... Bin Laden is on record as not agreeing with the way Hussein practices religion. He's not what they'd call a good fundamentalist muslim. They don't get along according to the reports.
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« Reply #132 on: October 11, 2002, 02:50:29 PM »
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All I'm saying is that I don't believe that the constitution guarantees you that right.


you know MT you may have a very good point

the 2nd neither grants nor guarantees me anything.  My right to bear arms is mine and mine alone already, nobody gave it to me and I certainly do not rely on the government to guarantee it.

It ('It' being we the people) states the government shall NOT infringe on my right to bear arms .  An inalienable right at that meaning it is incapable of being surrendered or transferred to anyone.
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« Reply #133 on: October 11, 2002, 02:52:03 PM »
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you know MT you may have a very good point

the 2nd neither grants nor guarantees me anything.  My right to bear arms is mine and mine alone already, nobody gave it to me and I certainly do not rely on the government to guarantee it.

It ('It' being we the people) states the government shall NOT infringe on my right to bear arms .  An inalienable right at that meaning it is incapable of being surrendered or transferred to anyone.


You're funny.
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« Reply #134 on: October 11, 2002, 02:54:32 PM »
Nice spin Mr. Blonde, and might I say that based on the intelligent nature of your posts I suspect you may have brunette roots.

The other half of my point is that there has never been a 2nd Amendment based reversal of any gun control legislation. Now why would that be?
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