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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2002, 01:05:22 PM »
if we all lived accordingly, the world would be a better place

read somewhere you shouldn't do anything you wouldn't want everyone to know about - how much simplier can it get?

the security measures this admin has taken doesn't bother me in the least, just as the cameras they have downtown or at the Stadium doesn't.

those with something to hide are the first to scream about such measures
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2002, 01:12:09 PM »
those with something to hide are the first to scream about such measures

Err.. my life is my own, I don't feel my neighbors or the government should have their eyes peering into it.

There's something about privacy most people like...
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2002, 01:17:59 PM »
Can we get back to making fun of the clip art please?

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2002, 01:29:40 PM »
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those with something to hide are the first to scream about such measures

Err.. my life is my own, I don't feel my neighbors or the government should have their eyes peering into it.

There's something about privacy most people like...
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Yea..isn't the US the land of the "free".  Freedom implies that you are free to conduct your life without "big brother" having a chance to view it at will.

I can't believe that any Americans would support this nonsense.
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2002, 01:51:45 PM »
pretty damned difficult to have security and ignorance at the same time.

by ignorance I mean ignorant of what's going on around us.

We need to keep abreast of what's happening.  IMO 9/11 was a shock to us only because we didn't expect it.  Too long were we complacent.

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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2002, 02:10:25 PM »
Scary to hear self-proclaimed "conservatives" making statements reminiscent of the KGB.

This country is truly going to hell in a handbasket.  The party which puports to uphold traditional American values and freedom has changed uniforms and is now playing for the other team.

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2002, 02:12:28 PM »
midnight Target: No no, Rip is right. For the children, lets install surveilance cameras in all homes. I mean, if you got nothing to hide......
 Only in homes, you, traitor?! Everybody person should be equipped with a camera and sound-recoreing device. Also every square inch of space should be covered. Untill it can be accomplished, all areas not under surveilance shoule be declared off-limits and only accessible by people with personal monitoring cameras or closely accompanied by such. Violators to be severely puniched of course.

 Of course I cannot take the credit for this idea: Lacey and Friends

Eagler: read somewhere you shouldn't do anything you wouldn't want everyone to know about - how much simplier can it get?
 Untill the pent-up urges explode in a chaos of nation-wide violence...
 Seriously, there are lot of things that I find acceptable and would not hold against you but you may not find them such. Who is going to determine the lowest common denominator? Right - Taliban: work, pray, eat, sleep.

Curval: I can't believe that any Americans would support this nonsense.
 So you might be mighty confused not believing your eyes and ears...

 AvidMC, you may wish to inquire into the meaning of the ":)" glyph...

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2002, 02:20:29 PM »
hehehe... OK, Ms. Franky Cox of the USPTO called me back this afternoon. I asked about the Graphic, and it was produced by the staff of the USPTO Pulse (the newsletter of the USPTO). When I asked her about the imagry of the graphic, she replied that because many of the inventions being patented during the rush for homeland security are related to cameras and the such. In fact one is mentioned in the Article (I think she was refering to the "continuous video monitoring system for regulating access to computers" mentioned in the Article)

She had no comment on the upside down flag ;)

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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2002, 02:22:50 PM »
Might I assume you are no longer a Patent Office geek?

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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2002, 02:30:45 PM »
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Might I assume you are no longer a Patent Office geek?


Well, I don't work at the patent office, but I can see it from my office window ;)

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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2002, 03:52:12 PM »
are we as a nation following the same path?

January 30, 1933
Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg appoints Adolph Hitler Chancellor.

February 27, 1933
The German Parliament (Reichstag) burns down. A dazed Dutch Communist named Marinus van der Lubbe is found at the scene and charged with arson. [He is later found guilty and executed].

February 28, 1933
President Hindenburg and Chancellor Hitler invoke Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution, which permits the suspension of civil liberties in time of national emergency. This Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of the People and State abrogates the following constitutional protections:
Free expression of opinion
Freedom of the press
Right of assembly and association
Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications
Protection against unlawful searches and seizures
Individual property rights
States' right of self-government

A supplemental decree creates the SA (Storm Troops) and SS (Special Security) Federal police agencies.

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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2002, 03:57:01 PM »
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February 27, 1933
The German Parliament (Reichstag) burns down. A dazed Dutch Communist named Marinus van der Lubbe is found at the scene and charged with arson. [He is later found guilty and executed].


Yes, I could see the smoke from Capitol Hill all the way from my office by National Airport. I wonder if we will ever rebuild the Capitol building?

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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2002, 04:07:22 PM »
Really? when did it catch on fire must've just happened no news here yet.