Author Topic: Imagine the sense of relief of this Corsair Pilot (Read 382 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25, 2002, 09:46:57 AM »

Wrong thread

Pongo · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2002, 10:17:05 AM »

I would have said a zero got him. Look at the little 7.7mm hits.. and then probably one 20mm hit. And AH does have individual damage areas at that level Elevatror damage. If his contol lines are still in place I would think that he would still have about 60% of his elevator authority with that damage...Dont know if AH models that kind of damage where the area is not destroyed. Just degraded..

ra · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2002, 11:12:17 AM »

AH models the loss of 1 elevator, that does the trick.

Bodhi · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2002, 01:33:58 PM »

Corsair has big honkin push / pull tubes for controls, not Cables... A bit safer.....

Voss · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2002, 01:36:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Dawggus
I immeadiately "split S'ed" out to the left and down, pulling out at around 6000 ft, never having seen anything.

See? In WWII they had the invisible plane bug, too! Historical precedence has been established!

Karnak · « **Reply #20 on:** October 25, 2002, 01:52:20 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
It would be interesting to see Jap combat records for that day and see if any Corsairs were claimed as killed, and by whom.

My guess, based on Japanese kill claims and claiming methods, would be that the Japanese claimed his Corsair as a kill that day. The Japanese pilot may have seen his split S for what it was, been unable to follow due to the A6M2/3's poor diving charactoristics and seen him form up to fly home, thus not claiming the kill. But I doubt it.

DmdBT · « **Reply #21 on:** October 25, 2002, 06:49:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Voss

See? In WWII they had the invisible plane bug, too! Historical precedence has been established!

LoL... sending bill for 1 19" monitor coated in Pepsi!

Lonz

F4UDOA · « **Reply #22 on:** October 25, 2002, 10:54:19 PM »

In AH a hit from a 20mil into your Corsair causes your tail to fall off, engine to smoke, gas tank to leak and wounds your pilot. And if your really lucky maybe the dweeb with the hispano lazer will crash into your wreckage so you can get the kill.

AH damage model needs a little looking into.

Pongo · « **Reply #23 on:** October 25, 2002, 11:12:48 PM »

From the inflicting the 20mm strikes on a corsair side of the coin..it doesnt seem that way bud...
very robust plane that takes some real killing...

funkedup · « **Reply #24 on:** October 25, 2002, 11:27:28 PM »

Look at the angle of the two elevators. Looks like he had no control over the left one, it was just flapping in the breeze.

SirLoin · « **Reply #25 on:** October 25, 2002, 11:38:28 PM »

Freeze..Didn't that b17 go into a death spiral?...Thought I saw a film of a stab taken out by a high buff's bomb..It then spiraled..Looked just like that pix before death dive.

Ouch · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2002, 12:58:35 AM »

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Originally posted by F4UDOA
In AH a hit from a 20mil into your Corsair causes your tail to fall off, engine to smoke, gas tank to leak and wounds your pilot. And if your really lucky maybe the dweeb with the hispano lazer will crash into your wreckage so you can get the kill.

PLEASE don't try and compare the rinkydink japanese 20mm to a Hispano 20mm. They are not even CLOSE to the same league.

The hispano shell is longer, has more powerfull explosive in the warhead. Then you look at the propulsive power of the hispano high velocity cannon versus the low velocity 20mm (Ho 90? or something like that) of the Japanese, and you realize it would be better to compare a Hispano 20mm to a Russian 23mm for damage potential.

ouch out

(ps, I have a gif of different WWII ammo, but I can't remember what each exactly is. If I can find the original post that I got it from I'll repost it.)

Samm · « **Reply #27 on:** October 29, 2002, 10:34:05 PM »

Beautiful photo bodhi, tells a story, thanks for sharing it with us .

Rude · « **Reply #28 on:** October 30, 2002, 08:17:59 AM »

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Originally posted by jbroey3
Hes really thinking.... wow thank god that the damage model allows for individual component failure.

If it were aces, well.. his entire tail would have been lopped off.

Before you make a remark like this, you might ask around or perhaps pay attention....AH does model individual component failure.

Creamo · « **Reply #29 on:** October 30, 2002, 09:52:16 AM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
Look at the angle of the two elevators. Looks like he had no control over the left one, it was just flapping in the breeze.

I disagree. I think the left elevator section was frozen by the damage, not 'flopping in the breeze', and the right one gave him control authority through it's ability to move, to return safely.

See I had a Model T Ford once, which relied upon the process of thermosyphoning... (early cars actually worked that way you know) and I know all about these things.

So there.