Author Topic: Looking for Fw190A Pic (Read 493 times)

Fancy · « **on:** November 03, 2002, 05:30:53 PM »

I saw a picture some time ago of an Fw190A with it's underside painted red with narrow white bands travelling along it's length. Apparently this marking was to help friendly ack determine who was who. Seems sort of silly as it would do the same thing for enemy ack. But it looked pretty cool and I'm thinking of doing my first skin of these markings. That is, if any of you kind gentlemen could produce these pictures for a brother in need....

Staga · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2002, 05:53:24 PM »

uhmm weren't those markings used in some "Doras" covering Me-262's take-offs and landings?

Staga · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2002, 05:59:42 PM »

pic of a plastic model, found it from some japanese site

Staga · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2002, 06:01:44 PM »

more pics:
http://www.stormbirds.com/schwalbe/wurger/wurger.htm
http://www.stormbirds.com/experten/profiles1.htm
http://www.stormbirds.com/experten/profiles2.htm

Fancy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2002, 09:05:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
uhmm weren't those markings used in some "Doras" covering Me-262's take-offs and landings?

Maybe, but I also saw them on some A model. Pretty sure these were CAP squads do maybe they predated the Dora. Either way actually, I'd like the pic.

Thanks Staga, that's exactly what I was looking for!!!

frank3 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2002, 07:17:27 AM »

that 'unusual' FW-109 could be some sort of assembly ship which helped getting large formations of planes together.
(they had assembly ships with B-24's but for fighters??)

Wotan · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2002, 11:01:47 AM »

They were doras, of JV44 "Platzschutzstaffel"

Wotan · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2002, 11:05:24 AM »

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Würger-Staffel 'Airfield Protection Flight' -- The Platzschutzstaffel was equipped with the long nosed Dora variant of the Fw 190, both D-9s and one very rare D-11 were used. The aircraft were painted with bright red and white striped undersurfaces to aid in recognition by weary 262 pilots returning to base, and also the anxious ground flak units. The aircraft also had unusual markings including a personal inscription on the port fuselage side.
Their mission was simple. Take off, climb to 1500 ft. Protect the jets. Land once the jets were safely away. They were forbidden to chase Allied planes.
The Me 262 was most vulnerable during takeoff and landing, more so than piston aircraft due to the greater time and distance required for the process. Marauding Allied pilots knew this and lurked around the bases in hopes of an easy kill.
Rather than depend on the High Command, Galland set about establishing his own Platzschutzstaffel (airfield defense squadron). For this he turned to the distinguished Eastern front ace, Leutnant Heinz Sachsenberg.
The JV44 Platzschutzstaffel has in recent times been referred to as the Papageien Staffel (Parrots). There is no evidence that this is based on historic fact and is likely due to the colorfully painted aircraft. According to Walter Krupinski, this staffel did occasionally use the radio call sign "Pagagei" (much like an allied flight may be called "Red" or "Baker"). To the pilots and personnel of JV44, the unit was simply known as the Würger-Staffel, literally translated Butcher-Bird Squadron. Würger was the official name given to the Focke-Wulf 190, much like Lightning was given to the P-38.

frank3 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2002, 12:12:42 PM »

well, I was almost right