Author Topic: Dubya surveys the battle lines... (Read 1357 times)

whgates3 · « **Reply #75 on:** November 15, 2002, 07:08:09 PM »

maybe he wants to come visit LA to see the world greatest enhanced hooters but is afraid he will get shot - - being disingenuous is not OK just because we have freedom of speech...its a charachter issue!

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beet1e · « **Reply #76 on:** November 16, 2002, 02:55:29 AM »

BGBMAW - it is not I who is too slow, but governments are in the habit of taking time to collate, produce and release data. I have two other reports published.

International comparisons of Criminal Justice Statistics 1999 (May 2001)
Deaths Reported to Coroners (May 2002)

Ah yes, your NRA magazine - the NRA being representative of the views of all Americans, and not polarised in any way whatsoever. A leading source of objective and unbiased material.

If you would look at the .PDF file that's hyperlinked in my sig., you will find that the percentage of homicides in the UK in which a firearm has been used has remained static for 25-30 years, as has the overall homicide rate itself. I doubt that there will be significant changes for later years because there were so few privately owned guns to begin with, and fewer than 90 gun related homicides in any year for which figures are available. You invite me to publish 2001 stats (if I'm not scared) but later advise me to shove them up my .... I will handle these two conflicting suggestions by advising you that the Home Office website is available for all to see.

WpnX - nothing worthy of comment.

Whgate3 - I take it that by LA you mean the city of Los Angeles, California, and not the state of Louisiana. Not sure what you mean by hooters. In British slang, a hooter can mean a car horn, or someone's nose. I have already been to Los Angeles three times - in 1978, 1988 and 1994. I did not particularly care for it. Of the west coast cities, I much preferred San Diego, San Francisco, and Seattle.

Nash · « **Reply #77 on:** November 16, 2002, 03:57:26 AM »

No.... Hooters = boobs.

Enhanced hooters = big boobs.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #78 on:** November 16, 2002, 05:32:59 AM »

Britain’s constitutional monarchy is an anachronism dating back to the 13th century. In modern times, it is an unmitigated disaster, which has given rise to many sex scandals in the past 25 years. While no law can be 100% effective, America has no “Royal culture”, and because supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses, much stricter controls on leadership have completely eliminated the rate of royal butler rape per 100,000 population.

sorry couldn't resist:D

beet1e · « **Reply #79 on:** November 16, 2002, 06:29:58 AM »

ROFL!!!!

Excellent post, Holden.

Very good. Speaking of sex scandals, what about Clinton and Monica? What was all that about a cigar? Thought Clinton was a non-smoker, except when he smoked dope at Oxford (but did not inhale

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I once heard the Clinton presidency described as "sex between the Bushes"!

PS. I think the first monarch was King Egbert (AD 803).

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #80 on:** November 16, 2002, 07:01:17 AM »

I was dating it (the Constitutional Monarchy) to the Magna Carta, which I was, thru a hazy memory, dating to 1200 or 1300 somewhere.

Our rules haven't elimated sex scandals, just royal butler rape.

lazs2 · « **Reply #81 on:** November 16, 2002, 10:48:15 AM »

clinton who?
lazs

BGBMAW · « **Reply #82 on:** November 16, 2002, 02:49:29 PM »

Beetle1..

So as I see....Your killings and crimes have risen 2002...oh but not by guns..I guess stabbings are bettr then being shot..Ok you guys win..Thx God you didnt have to defend ur self with a gun..I think you guys should ban Knives next,..that will teach those criminals...

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Ah yes, your NRA magazine - the NRA being representative of the views of all Americans, and not polarised in any way whatsoever. A leading source of objective and unbiased material.

No beetle it snot rep of all views..that is a really dum thing to say...

But this group of voluteers are one of the TRUE AMERICANS who DO PRESERVE OUR CONSTitution....You dont have the 2nd Amendment with out the first....

Freedom of speech..and the freedom to bear arms

ANd it is a leading source of objective materlais on GUNS and gun control...You dont know unless you read..but ..hey ..Ill be bak and post some links for you Limeys;

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BGBMAW · « **Reply #83 on:** November 16, 2002, 02:57:06 PM »

thsi may be a bit long but Beetl1...eat your heart out..ill post a link to the rest of your .."Safer England with out guns"..lololo

AN EPIDEMIC OF CRIME
The London Evening Standard reported on Dec. 19, 2001, "Gun crime in London is rocketing, with increases of almost 90 percent in some firearms offenses, Scotland Yard reported today. New figures show London murders with guns increased by 87 percent in the first eight months of the year com-pared with the same period last year."

The Daily Telegraph of Jan. 3, 2002, reported, "Police fear a new crime explosion as school-age muggers graduate to guns … the number of people robbed of personal property at gunpoint rose by 53 percent … . Ballistics experts warn that firearms are now cheap and easily available."

The Telegraph reported "the number of young people committing serious crimes, including murder and grievous bodily harm, has almost doubled in seven years."

Various news outlets covered the story from a different perspective, but their conclusions were the same, very bad news–terrible news for ordinary and unarmed British subjects.

All of this was magnified for the world in a stunning report issued by the un Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute in July 2002, which found England and Wales to be far ahead of the rest of the Western world in terms of violent crime.

The headline in The Independent laid it out in very simple terms: "Britain is now the crime capital of the West." Among the findings reported were that "nearly 55 crimes are committed per 100 people" and that "England and Wales also have the worst record for ‘very serious offenses’ ... ."

With half the innocent public falling victim to crime, the issue of unbridled street thuggery has overwhelmed all else in terms of British domestic issues. All of this in a nation where personal self-defense–armed self-defense–is a crime. The inevitable response of government to its failed gun control schemes? Calls for more gun control, of course.

ohh Classic....

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P.s ..heres the full article....come and get it boys....
http://www.nrahq.org/publications/tag/brittain.asp

BGBMAW · « **Reply #84 on:** November 16, 2002, 03:04:00 PM »

LO this is even better...Beetle..and yes it even happens here too..so dont worry..you guys arent the only ones making realllly bad decisions...

Hell we juts had a jusry find a gun manfacturer liable for 21million cause cuase some dum bellybutton kid shot hi steacher..!!! they didnt wan to sue thekid who did it..,,,,cause hes a poor little bastard...

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Witness the story of Tony Martin, a 54-year-old farmer, whose home on a 350-acre rural tract had been repeatedly burglarized and robbed. In fact, thieves had broken into his home and outbuildings at least two dozen times. On the night of Aug. 21, 1999, Martin heard burglars inside his home and confronted the criminals with a shotgun. He wounded one thief and killed another. A third house breaker got away.

The dead burglar had a history of crimes of violence and crimes against persons and property. He had been arrested for 29 different crimes including burglary, theft and assaulting police. The two other career criminals had been hauled before the court on criminal offenses 52 times and 35 times.

But it was Tony Martin who was prosecuted with the greatest zeal. The Crown Court found him guilty of murder and sentenced him to life in prison. Although the Court of Appeals (akin to our u.s. Supreme Court) ultimately reduced Martin’s sentence after changing his conviction to manslaughter, Martin is still in prison, serving seven years total.

In the meantime, the surviving wounded burglar, Brendon Fearon, was consulted by officials of the Home Office–in prison–as to whether or not Tony Martin could be subject to parole. Further, on July 2, 2002, the London Daily Mail revealed that the government had given £5,000 of taxpayers’ money to burglar Fearon (now a free man) to fund a lawsuit against Tony Martin.

This is the "safe society" created by the work of Britain’s gun control fanatics:

ahh it wasnt 21 millino it was 1.2 mill
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl

Stupid asss Judges ..and Burn in hell lawyers

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beet1e · « **Reply #85 on:** November 16, 2002, 03:48:26 PM »

BGBMAW -

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The London Evening Standard reported on Dec. 19, 2001, "Gun crime in London is rocketing, with increases of almost 90 percent in some firearms offenses, Scotland Yard reported today.

Oh, well good job I don't live in London then.

Did you cut and paste that text, or is it a fabrication? I couldn't help noticing the spelling - offenses. The Standard and Scotland Yard would have spelt it offences.

The gun threads have been done to death. You missed the boat, BGBMAW. Maybe it's YOU who is "toooooo slowwwww" - as you put it.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #86 on:** November 16, 2002, 07:17:50 PM »

LOLO beetle1....well im too slow..but your Lies have to be defeated..cause if you keep reapaeting peopl will begin to beleive...

your "quotes or what ever you call them on all yor posts are what im refferring too....

And yes I cut and pasted..but the link will show u the full text...

Love BiGB
xoxo

P.S. great come back.."Im glad I dont live in London"..lmfao...ya im happy i dont live in Compton..(Ghetto in L.A.)...Bu t to ban inexpensive guns just makes people who cant afford a $500 pistol defensless....is that fair ??..Hell no

YEEEEEEEEEEE u are wrong!!!!!!!lololololo

Daniko · « **Reply #87 on:** November 17, 2002, 12:00:35 AM »

Personally, i'd like to see people start to get over the issue of whether Bush is a numbnut, or Clinton is a cock in a cheap suit, and start to talk about real important stuff, like why almost 10,000 American servicemen have died in the last 10 years from "Gulf War Syndrome," which they are now discovering is related to Depleted Uranium used in American armor piercing weapons on the battle field. This is an issue that has Radical Right Wingers, and Left Wingers shouting. That death toll is almost 20% of our casualties of the Vietnam war.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #88 on:** November 18, 2002, 03:02:40 PM »

i met a rifleman in the marines this weekend..was in vietnam...lord bless him..the effects of death still are on him ...It was frikn eerie to hear him.."Killin Commies for my mommy"....seeing lots of death around him

Lord I pray for our soldiers...God Bless them..all

May we have a quik and crushing attaks where ever we point our gun

and depleted uranaium??? How many wepaons use it?? just rockts and missles..or do we make AP rounds form machine guns too?? M-60 and such??

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