Author Topic: Killshootered, without hitting a friendly? (Read 123 times)

Innominate · « **on:** November 14, 2002, 12:41:37 AM »

I'm curious, do cannon rounds have a proximity effect when they go off?

I just killshootered myself by putting a bunch of rounds into an la7, with a friendly plane buzzing by(VERY close to the la7, almost touching) I never hit the friendly plane directly, all hit the la7, yet my tail went flying anyways.

So do these shells have a proximity effect or did I somehow manage to hit the friendly without seeing it?

(Note, this is not a whine, or any plea for ks to be changed, just a question of the exact mechanics of it)

Chairboy · « **Reply #1 on:** November 14, 2002, 12:44:38 AM »

It's all about the FE. According to your front end, the shells never hit, but as far as the server saw, they did. A difference of a few fractions of a second between you and the server could mean the difference between killshooter and near miss.

TheManx · « **Reply #2 on:** November 14, 2002, 03:58:07 AM »

I'm not sure about in Aces High, but I don't think every round sent from your plane shows a tracer. Perhaps some of the rounds not shown as a tracer found their way to the friendly plane.

Booky · « **Reply #3 on:** November 14, 2002, 04:31:36 AM »

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Originally posted by TheManx
I'm not sure about in Aces High, but I don't think every round sent from your plane shows a tracer. Perhaps some of the rounds not shown as a tracer found their way to the friendly plane.

True, not all rounds show tracers, however all hits show a flash. So if he had hit the friend then he would have seen a flash on the friend.

Chairboy,
I understand what you are saying but the server doesn't have a FE. What the server gets is what your PC sends it. Meaning if you see a flash on the enemy then the server sees that. Just like collisions, can't get dammage without actually hitting them on your FE.

~~Booky~~

BenDover · « **Reply #4 on:** November 14, 2002, 08:37:02 PM »

how do you know you didn't hit the friendly?

Innominate · « **Reply #5 on:** November 14, 2002, 09:15:25 PM »

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Originally posted by BenDover
how do you know you didn't hit the friendly?

Because i saw the flashes on the la7. But it was close enough that I could have been wrong. But 20mm shells having a blast-radius would explain it better.

fffreeze220 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 15, 2002, 02:07:42 AM »

Netlag. Its the same with the collisions that never take place on ur screen but u die to it.
Happens sometimes.

Booky · « **Reply #7 on:** November 15, 2002, 04:16:12 AM »

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Originally posted by fffreeze220
Netlag. Its the same with the collisions that never take place on ur screen but u die to it.
Happens sometimes.

You will never die from a collision that is not seen on your screen. It isn't possible with the way HT's servers work. If you ever find a instance where you take dammage from a collision and you didn;t see any contact, then I want to see it on film. HT made it this way for a good reason and the only drawback is that only one guy typically dies from a collision because only one guy typically sees contact, that part is due to lag.

Booky

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** November 15, 2002, 04:26:16 AM »

I'm certain the 30mm cannon shells do have blast radius. Take a Bf109G with a 30mm cannon and fire at a hangar at very short range - when your nose gets close enough, maybe 5-6 feet, the 30mm will blow you up.