Author Topic: Best AtA fighter in service today (Read 740 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2002, 12:28:18 PM »

No, no, no!!

The F-102, but only in the hands of a true war hero like Dubya!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2002, 02:18:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Kanth
not since he fell off his horse.

Oh man! Cold...real cold (I like it)

Rude · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:26:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)
I once talked to a Eurofighter test pilot. He was saying that on simulations of combat survivability, the Eurofighter beat the F-16 into the dust, was better than the F-15 by a decent margin but was outclassed by the F-22.

Mighty big difference between a simulation and real life.

My money is on American iron driven by American pilots....ya see, we use our toys:)

Rude · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:30:18 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
No, no, no!!

The F-102, but only in the hands of a true war hero like Dubya!

Ya know...it just dawned on me.

You must be a sad and bitter little fella to always have to whine or dig the President or Republicans or Conservative or folks who don't think like you or.......sheesh...where do I stop?

Thrawn · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:30:22 PM »

CF-104s did very well against F-15s, or so my old man said.

iceydee · « **Reply #20 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:30:51 PM »

well, if you're gonna count the F22 then you should count Su37. And then we have a winner. Have you not seen what that aircraft can do? Sommersaults and stuff. I have a couple of videos if you'd like.

midnight Target · « **Reply #21 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:35:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Ya know...it just dawned on me.

You must be a sad and bitter little fella to always have to whine or dig the President or Republicans or Conservative or folks who don't think like you or.......sheesh...where do I stop?

Ya know, that thing you think was a dawn was a dusk. Go back and read everything I've ever written then come back and we will play, mister conclusion jumper.

Freakin Republicrats just can't take a joke anymore. sheesh.

And who you calling little? shortstuff.

Staga · « **Reply #22 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:46:47 PM »

Manoeuvrs like "Pugatshev's Cobra" are more suitable as a defensive moves than offensive.
IIRC also F-18 is capable to do moves like that with reprogrammed flight computer, in airshow here in Finland pilot had orders not to show what they could do with Hornets.

Anyway manoeuvrs like "Cobra" are pretty impressive, looks like that plane has quite good power to weight ratio

btw I was looking when Russian MiG-23s were in airshow first time in "western world", year was 1978

Russian · « **Reply #23 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:17:07 PM »

Russian · « **Reply #24 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:22:31 PM »

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Animal · « **Reply #25 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:36:58 PM »

davidpt40 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:46:09 PM »

Luftwaffe Mig29s regularly beat F16s in WVR (within visual range) dog fights. The helmet mounted sight allows 45 degree heat seaking missle shots. F15s and F16s dont have this feature.

senna · « **Reply #27 on:** November 20, 2002, 10:40:16 PM »

F-15 vs F-18. Everything else is a flying target and future scrap metal.

Rude · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2002, 09:57:18 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Ya know, that thing you think was a dawn was a dusk. Go back and read everything I've ever written then come back and we will play, mister conclusion jumper.

Freakin Republicrats just can't take a joke anymore. sheesh.

And who you calling little? shortstuff.

I'm sorry....thought you threw in a Dubya dig....I'm sure that I have misinterpreted the tone of your last 100 posts....my mistake.

icemaw · « **Reply #29 on:** November 23, 2002, 03:58:12 AM »

F15 has never lost a fight never been shot down in combat. It has several mig29 and su27 kills. F16 will allways be my favorite it just looks like it could kill sitting on runway.