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Offline Steve

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« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2002, 02:24:44 PM »
Curly. Rude may be a nice guy..dunno.  I know he was rude to me. To be fair to the guy, he baited me and I stepped right into it.  I started smackin on 1. Again, I was muted and for good reason.  The popup window I received afterward was the decision maker for me though, so I have issue w/ the whole squad.  Not saying I'm in the right, just that I'll take particular pleasure in killing them.



Are AK's back to bish?  As much as I like flyin w/ many of the rooks, I was left hanging after saving a countryman once too often and am going to make a change when I log on today.
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« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2002, 02:53:27 PM »
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Curly. Rude may be a nice guy..dunno.  I know he was rude to me. To be fair to the guy, he baited me and I stepped right into it.  I started smackin on 1. Again, I was muted and for good reason.  The popup window I received afterward was the decision maker for me though, so I have issue w/ the whole squad.  Not saying I'm in the right, just that I'll take particular pleasure in killing them.



Are AK's back to bish?  As much as I like flyin w/ many of the rooks, I was left hanging after saving a countryman once too often and am going to make a change when I log on today.


Steve, I learned a long time ago that you cannot depend upon people to stay in the fight after you have cleared their 6 of a horde. More often than not, they take to opportunity to bug out.

These days, I tend to help only those I know will not leave me holding the bag. The rest of them can consider their experience as a lesson in SA. I even tell my squadies that I won't compound their mistake by getting myself killed too. Especially if I warned them not to go there in the first place.

I'll miss you flying Rook, but good luck with whatever country you choose to fly with.

Cya up there!

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« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2002, 03:25:58 PM »
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just that I'll take particular pleasure in killing them.


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« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2002, 03:30:35 PM »
Notice I didn't mention I'd be doing it w/ any regularity.  heheh


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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2002, 04:44:07 PM »
1. There's the built in profanity filter/mute function. It has no judgement, it merely does what it is programmed to do. There are undoubtedly clever ways trick it. It has no emotion, no judgement, no "common sense" though.

At any time, that may be all the "moderation" that is working/available in the Main.

2. There are an unknown number of human "moderators". HTC apparently picks them and there's no list that I know about. I'd guess HTC gives them a list or an idea of what they want "moderated".

As soon as you introduce a human into the equation, you get "judgement calls". I suspect that everyone is different. Probably what might bother one moderator can slide by unnoticed by another.

Did HTC tell these guys to "moderate" the trash talking in the Main? The machismo? Or did they just tell them to try to clean up the language, which is what most of the BBS threads that complain about Ch 1 deal with?

Basically, no of us have a clue how the human moderator function works. We don't know who or how many or what their marching orders are.

So we can have two situations: the built in filter/moderator alone in the MA or the built in + an unknown number of human moderators with their own ideas of what to do. Therein lies the inconsistency, IMO.

Perhaps this thread should focus on what we would want them to do and HTC can adjust the "standing orders" accordingly.

Do we just want to clean up the text language? Or do we want to stomp out the "Quien es muy macho" stuff too?

Of course, taunting USED to be an artform. In other days, in other games, it was fun to read and listen to. Unfortunately, there seems to be a lack of skilled taunters lately. There were those that could do it without being the least bit vulgar; to the contrary, they were polite in their takedowns. Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?

As far as 13 TAS getting mute privs... I'm all for it! Where do I sign up? Most of the verbal sparring doesn't bother me, but I'd be pretty tough on the vulgarities....... including the use of uppercase numbers in strategic places. :D

Where do I apply?

BTW, if you ever see a 13th pilot getting vulgar on text or on vox, please bring it to the attention of either Rude or myself. That's perhaps the biggest "no-no" we have. If you can't express yourself without vulgarity, you obviously lack the intelligence, originality and imagination required to operate in harmony with the rest of the 13th.  :D
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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2002, 04:52:58 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2002, 04:55:58 PM »
Morality is the essense of civility, ok.
But there are two that say were muted for private grudges.
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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2002, 05:35:19 PM »
Of course, they haven't explained the "private grudges" or offered any sort of support for the accusation whatsoever.

Or did I miss something?
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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2002, 05:37:03 PM »
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Morality is the essense of civility, ok.
But there are two that say were muted for private grudges.


this is an issue of interest to me as well - extending to and abuse of these "privledges" for the benefit of other squad members, as opposed to maintaining neutrality and going after any and all "infractions" occurring.

selective moderation kind of puts a cloud over the whole thing.
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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2002, 06:09:26 PM »
No no no. none of your gang was vulgar...well not in words anyway ;)

I was, and got muted... I accept my punishment.

Got muted for saying "turd" once.. and it wasn't used as an insult.  Thought that was a bit excessive
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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2002, 06:10:24 PM »
One thing that annoys me is that the automute also applies in private channels and in one-on-one private chat.  I tend to habitually say "Damnit" with my buddies and have been muted several times after saying it in private chat with my wingman after making a mistake and being killed.  I realize that you want to avoid people tuning their chat to someone else and labasting them with verbal abuse, but this happens anyway and it's what the .squelch command is for.  I really wish the automute only applied to public-sector channels such as Ch1 and Ch2 and the "in-range" channel, possibly also mission channels.

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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2002, 06:34:26 PM »
You couldn't leave censor off in 1-1 channels, the easiest way to get insults at someone is it.
Re: Toad,
If those guys want to say it, they will, i won't in their place, there's two of them that didn't sound like dishonnest trolls.
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« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2002, 07:00:41 PM »
gotta tell my story of the 1 time i was muted....

there was a player logged on who landed kills with the CIPD : avacado

yes: avacado

i had shot him down the day before and laughed at the name out loud.

anyway this particular night the player avacado landed kills as i said and the whole arena started joking about the name on CH. 1

i chimed in with the statement:i "hit" err shot avacado last night lololol

i was Promptly muted w/o warning.

now i know my play on words was a bit suggestive and was a little peeved that noone else was muted that i saw (most just kept going on about the name)

overall though i was more saddened by the fact that somone at HTC had read my message and was offended.

i sent an email appologizing to HTC that night and hoped that i would not become a player they dont like. i did not want to become a player that is only allowed to keep playing because i pay money.

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« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2002, 11:22:13 PM »
Jeeze, i've always been fairly incogneato G in the O main, but D after this post, D I'm definately A going to start M funkin with N people's weinerShnitzel man,... I mean what dung is it , . .rrr fun is it , . ..if you can't see someone take it all too seriously, . .to the point where it fek's up their day to day life and turns their kids into little hitler's...., . . ..

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« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2002, 01:31:15 AM »
I think a lot of you just dont get it.

If you get a warning, why push it.  I know everytime I have received a warning I figure that the moderator has their eye on me and I better tone it down.  Why continue at that point or even worse, why talk back to the monitor?

It seems to me that if you push the monitor then you deserve what you get.  Funny thing is that 9 times out of 10 if you tone it down after the warning, more than likely nothing will happen.