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Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2002, 12:52:16 PM »
We have homeless people because of the drug war.

What? No, not direct result.. well I guess it is... see, they had to kick all of those nuts out of the mental hospitals because the government thinks your tax dollars are better spent on the war on drugs.

They USE to NOT be homeless.... but the drug war is a better use for tax payer's dollars than keeping the crazies off the streets.........
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2002, 12:59:22 PM »
Wow Swulfe.  That's wrong.  No argument even needed.

"Homeless" is another label used to describe people as if they are all the same.  "Homeless people are just..."  Adress the issues causing the homelessness.  See what's left after that.

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2002, 01:01:59 PM »
Which part? That the homeless didn't use to have a spot in mental hospitals, and other places, to live at? Afforded by tax payer's dollars?

Or the part that it was dropped so the money could go towards the drug war, among other things?
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2002, 01:10:24 PM »
Do not be poor or sick in america.  

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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2002, 01:25:29 PM »
The really sad part is that most of the folks on the streets are truly unemployable.  They're homeless because, quite frankly, they have a thin mental grasp on civilized society.  A large percentage were released from mental institutions either because the money ran out or the institution needed the bed space.  And most of them are alcoholics who may or may not have been productive members of society before drinking their brains away.  I read somewhere that the average lifespan for a vagrant is 3 to 5 years, some more, some less, depending on temperate climates, local welfare codes, and food supply.

Here in Florida, we get a lot of vagrants hitchhiking down the Interstate, hopping a train, or generally ho-boing their way south for the winter.  A lot of them congregate in the downtown sectors because that's where the soup lines are.  Where I live, the bums usually sleep under the bridge onramps and highway overpasses.  A few fortunate ones get to sleep on (and sometimes under) concrete benches with a spectacular view out over the bay.  I pass them when I go jogging.  They usually keep to themselves, just staring out over the water like the statues on Easter Island.  I avoid making eye contact, and keep my eyes on their hands, and with my pace I'm only within casual earshot for a second.

If it were up to me, I'd move the soup kitchens out of the city.  The hobos will go wherever there's a steady supply of food and shelter.  If they want to camp, they can do it in the woods instead of in the concrete jungle.
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2002, 01:34:19 PM »
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Originally posted by hardcase
Do not be poor or sick in america.  

HC

What are you talking about?  All the un-insured patients end up in city hospitals, where YOU, the taxpayer, pays for it.  Forget that the RN's know most of these drug addicts by first name basis..you'll continue to pay for it under the Good Samaritan laws.

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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2002, 01:35:50 PM »
But for the grace of god...

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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2002, 01:47:58 PM »
We should export all of the homeless people in the US up to Canada in exchange for their Grain.


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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2002, 02:19:24 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
...Vagrancy and "parasitism" were considered crimes in USSR....


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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2002, 02:27:02 PM »
What IS a crime is being rich....er than me
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2002, 02:56:28 PM »
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Originally posted by SOB
We should export all of the homeless people in the US up to Canada in exchange for their Grain.


SOB


I'm affraid we'll have to put  a 17% tarriff on each homeless person you export.
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2002, 03:10:28 PM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
When you're all standing in bread lines, how the hell you gonna notice someone down on their luck worse than you???


ROFL! Oh my, that is funny. Mark your calenders folks, Rip made me laugh today, and he was actually trying to be funny!
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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2002, 04:36:22 PM »
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In Soviet times we didn't have homeless people here.


Funny, but in Moscow, in 1990 I distinctly remember dirty, bare-footed asiatic looking people begging for money of us rich, decadent Western children. Maybe I was imagining them...

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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2002, 04:44:15 PM »
the police can get rid of them however they want - stick em in a work camp, shoot em, institutionalize them - i don't really care at this point.

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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2002, 04:59:21 PM »
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the police can get rid of them however they want - stick em in a work camp, shoot em, institutionalize them - i don't really care at this point.



Sounds like you're looking for some sort of final solution....Nazi.