Author Topic: Ssstttuuukaaaa (Read 883 times)

BenDover · « **Reply #15 on:** November 27, 2002, 12:35:46 PM »

It better have the siren though, it just wouldn't be the same with out it!

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 27, 2002, 12:58:29 PM »

sunking... you won't see it a lot in the MA.
lazs

Thrawn · « **Reply #17 on:** November 27, 2002, 01:17:01 PM »

WH00P!!!!!!!!!!! WTFG! Thanks HTC!

Curval · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2002, 01:19:39 PM »

Looks like a nice slow easily shot down target...thanks HTC!

SunKing · « **Reply #19 on:** November 27, 2002, 01:21:16 PM »

The all knowing Laz has refuted. You're getting slow, I expected you to rain on my parade sooner than this. thankya kindly move along now.

Tarmac · « **Reply #20 on:** November 27, 2002, 02:00:03 PM »

sooo purdey.

Thanks HTC.

Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** November 27, 2002, 02:27:04 PM »

Nice lookin' Stuka ya gots there Superfly.

Be a real shame if anything were ta happen ta it, if ya catch my drift.

JimBear · « **Reply #22 on:** November 27, 2002, 02:39:49 PM »

yummmmmm Target

Widewing · « **Reply #23 on:** November 27, 2002, 02:49:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Nice Special Events plane! (Y'all wouldn't last but 2 min. in the Main, there'd be a nice Conga line behind your A/C with the enemy all trying to shoot you down)

Boy, I'll say! In the MA, you would be much better off with the SBD, which is a better aircraft in every way. Moreover, not only can the SBD driver actually defend himself, but is a real threat to anything or anyone not prepared to be attacked by one. Heck, I've killed B-17s with the dang thing!

That said, I look forward to flying the Stuka in the CT. That will be a hoot!

Now there's an interesting possibility: Everyone grab a dive bomber of your choice, and duke it out King of the Hill style. That would be a blast! Choose the Stuka, SBD, D3A1, or TBM (sorry, but the Kate has no forward firing guns). Might be very entertaining.

My regards,

Widewing

Mitsu · « **Reply #24 on:** November 27, 2002, 03:02:38 PM »

I gotta prepare Stuka sounds.

Mitsu · « **Reply #25 on:** November 27, 2002, 03:07:24 PM »

BTW I can't wait for Citabria's Stuka missions.

Tracer-15 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 27, 2002, 04:27:16 PM »

imagine instead of a 30+ goon run....a 30+ stuka gangbang on a base...lol this will be great

Kweassa · « **Reply #27 on:** November 27, 2002, 05:23:29 PM »

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Looks very very nice.

Not sure if Im overstepping here but I almost feel like some of the IL2 3D models are a source of inspiration. I sense this in the screenshot.

Gotta agree with this one!

It seems to prove to us that AH Graphic engine really isn't that incompetent. Maybe HTC is intentionally using less polygons for the low-end users, and hasn't shown its full potential in graphics... who knows?

Anyhow, the three largest features where graphics enhancement can be noticed is 1) the spinners, 2) the wheels, and 3) quality of tectures.

It is pretty REALLY! distinct that the wheels on the new Stuka is almost round! Not the octogon or decahedron you'd see in older planes! The spinner looks pretty round, too...

Now.. all we have to do is wait for 512x512 textures and then AH would look really a looooooot better!

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ps) ditto on the Jericho's Trumpet. No Stuka is complete without that mean scream

Wotan · « **Reply #28 on:** November 27, 2002, 06:08:18 PM »

The Ju 87D-3 had a 1400 hp Jumo 211 J 12 Cylinder liquid-cooled inverted vee and carried 1600kg of ord of Various loads up to a maximum 3,968 lbs. This version is haevier then the d1 and less manuverable. The d3 had no dive Siren.

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The Ju 87D-3 introduced even more additional armour for the crew and vital parts of the aircraft reflecting the Ju 87s increasing use as a Schlachtflugzeug (close-support aircraft). From the D-4 model onwards the 7.92 mm window guns were replaced by the 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon. The Ju 87D-4 was a torpedo-bomber version capable of carrying a single torpedo with only a few example built. The Ju 87D-5 model had a longer wing span, with pointed wing tip extensions for use as a dedicated close-support version with jettisonable landing gear and no dive brakes. An interesting development was the Ju 87D-7, a night ground-attack model converted from Ju 87D-3s and Ju 87D-5s with a 1,500 hp (1119 kW) Jumo 211P engine with exhaust pipes extending back across the wing. The Ju 87D-8 was a day version of Ju 87D-7 without night-flying equipment and flame-dampers. The wing mounted machine-guns replaced by 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon and dive brakes were omitted. The Ju 87D-8 was the last aircraft type in production when in September 1944, all aircraft production other than fighters, was terminated.

About the D5

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The Ju 87 D-3 had been found too slow and not maneuvrable enough by the crews. Learning from that, this new version (d5) of the Stuka had lengthened wings and more armement. The dive brakes were abandonned in the course of this series: the plane was almost never used as a dive bomber any more and only as ground support plane.

The d3 became the g1 witrh added 2 37mm Rheinmetall-Borsig BK 3,7 (Flak 18 or Flak 36) anti-tank cannon and the deletion of the 7mm and dive breaks.

The D5 became the G2

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Ju 87G (G-1/G-2) - The Ju 87G was the final version of the Stuka. It abandoned the dive attack in favour of an armament of two 37mm Rheinmetall-Borsig BK 3,7 (Flak 18 or Flak 36) anti-tank cannon weighing over 800 lbs (363 kg). These weapons fired special armour-piercing ammunition, with tungsten cores, at a muzzle velocity of 2,790 ft (850 m) per second. They were installed in gun pods fitted outboard of the landing gear legs. The ammunition was in six-round clips. The first operational trials were made in March 1943. The normal 7.92 mm or 20 mm wing guns were deleted. Dive bombing was not possible with the additional weight of the guns, so the dive brakes were also deleted. The Ju 87G could still drop bombs, but not in a dive. Initially, the Ju 87G was seen as quite dangerous to its crews. The additional weight and drag of the wing guns adversely affected performance and handling, and low-level attacks in the face of the Russian AAA and fighters seemed suicidal. But true as that was, it remained that the Ju 87G was extremely effective. The 37 mm gun was in 1943 considered obsolete as an anti-tank gun on the ground, but from the air it was still effective, because the Ju 87G could attack tanks from the rear or from above, were their armour was much thinner. Not that the Germans refrained from trying out bigger cannon on anti-tank aircraft, but the Ju 87 could not possibly carry these, and larger aircraft such as the Ju 88 were not agile enough to operate successfully against tanks. There were two versions, the G-1 and the G-2, with short and long wing spans, respectively with the G-2 based on the long-wing D-5 model. Production of the Ju 87 was halted definitively in October 1944. The greatest exponent of the Ju 87G-1 was Hans-Ulrich Rudel who was personally credited with the destruction of 519 Russian armoured vehicles. He flew 2,530 combat missions and continued to lead Stuka formations in daylight long after the other Stukagruppen had replaced their vunerable aircraft with the Focke-Wulf Fw 190.

We can get multiple uses from the d3 due to its gun load out. It also allows for the G1. Just add the 37mm and delete the 7mm wing guns. HT we also need to adjust the hard points for the limited bomb load of the g.

The D3 was the last "dive bomb" version of the Stuka. The d3 provides ht with the ability to get 2 fer 1.

brady · « **Reply #29 on:** November 27, 2002, 06:44:21 PM »

I hate to burst anyones bouble, but this vershion had no siren.

I am happy to see the Stuka, and Imo, the models chosen were good choices, I was concerned that if we got the stuka it would be the D-5 with the added powere and 20mm cannons and would their fore of been very out of place in early war CT and event's set up's, this is a great choice imo. TY Pyro ans Supperfly she is very Beautiful.