Author Topic: 1.11 will make it or break it for me (Read 1031 times)

flakbait · « **Reply #15 on:** December 02, 2002, 08:02:37 AM »

Yup, what the Vermin said

(been a while!). The Stuka and B5N will be nice for scenarios but fairly useless in the Main. Then again, a lot of AH takes place in scenarios so who knows. Komets won't be touched by those defending HQs because one goonie can rebuild the thing. Tiger tanks were damn good for fixed defense but horrid when on the move cross country. Because the terrain (or maybe the gear box) slows down vehicles so much, travel times aren't low. Add the two together and no one will risk 30-50 perks to drive a 55 ton, 12 mph bomb-magnet. Redoing the P-51 model (hopefully a few others too) is a definite plus, though! Updating the old models to match the newer ones improves detail; always a good thing!

Development time has gone WAY up lately. Which kinda shocked me. Then again I'm one of those old heads who's been around since BETA (off and on anyway). Maybe the days of updates every month or two spoiled us?

One thing I definitely do miss was the interaction between players and HTC here. Ever since Pyro took that "mystery" vacation things have been real quiet. Hell, they shanghai-ed Skuzzy into making news posts!

Still, I gotta repeat what I said a couple years ago. I'll still be around when 1.11 hits the server, and 1.12, and 1.13 as well. AH is always fun, whether it be offline, in H2H, training tin horns or recreating historical battles. There's a spot for everyone's tastes here, well except lazs' anyway

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rv6 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2002, 08:22:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Conagher
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Tilt · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2002, 10:07:41 AM »

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Originally posted by oboe
How many fighters are left to be modelled that could have significant use in the MA? I can't think of more than a handful:

Yak-3, P-47M, J2M3, Ki.84, Ki.100, G.55, 109K?

This will eventually be the dilemna...........

the MA requires that its rides are moderately competitive or at least usably niche'd.........

as the "still wanted and will actually used list" gets shorter for the MA .....................

then HTC focus on ways of expanding the format in other ways..............we see that already vis a vis stated ambitions but this stuff will swallow up resources once its committed to......

(many of us do not care there is a new TE yet it must have used up considerable resource.......btw I do care there is a new TE)

Looking at the work in progress list (based on the pictures we've been given) the known rides coming are the Me163, Tiger Tank, Kate and recently the Stuka...........

Looking at some of the 1st person and the mission arena ambitions then these are big steps if they are to carry significant impact.........

I would suggest that new AC/GV and game upgrade patches are looked at separately............ I believe we would love a month on month new ride upgrade rather than several clustered together with the big patch......... it makes it feel like stuff is continuously growing to the user.............

The big patches in game play, strat system, mission systems (hard code stuff) would then represent stepping stones in HTC's progress from MPACS to MPTWS and markets anew.......... whilst the general expansion in rides and terrains offer more for the player who just wants more of what he has already........

VWE001 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 02, 2002, 10:17:21 AM »

O.k. we got plenty of planes, lets have some new GV's! And how about another boat or 2... and where in my sub? Or how about throwing my bomber AND vehicle perkies into a general pool so I can use them on what ever I want?

EvilDingo · « **Reply #19 on:** December 02, 2002, 10:22:18 AM »

I agree. I feel that HTC has taken a step back regarding the average joe. What was that deal with the shutting down the message board before the release of 1.10 (or was it 1.09?)

Sure people were going nuts. They were excited about a new version of their favorite sim being released. They were undoubtly acting stupid, but why shut down the board? Maybe I'm off-base here. But that's how I took it at the time.

Not to be unfair, but look at Il2. They post development updates once a week. Oleg makes regular appearances in the message forum. Now, plane whiners GALORE are all over Oleg. They accuse him of making the Russian planes better than the German planes... etc etc.

It's got to be very stressful.

Generally though, Oleg goes out fighting. If someone insults him, he says so. If they're off base, he says why. Undoubtly, that takes a LOT of time and energy and while I don't think the AH forums need that kind of attention -- they need more than they're getting now. I enjoy seeing posts from the HTC team.

Anyway, I'm waaay off base here. Back to the point:

Early war planes definitely have their place in AH. All I'm asking for is some moderation. If we get a few early war planes, toss in one or two that might change the dynamics of the MA. They don't need to be P-51 killers, just something else to master.

I can take of a large number just off the top of my head. G.55 (oooh that would be sooo nice), Re2005 (I bet data is hard to find on this), LaGGs, Yak-3, 109-G14, P-39s, P-51A (Allison 51 anyone? Probably as a small perk since it lugged 4 hispanos), earlier P-38, P-40N (woo hoo!), P-47M(N?), Ki.84... etc...

There are tons of aircraft you could add to the MA. Any one of those aircraft could be VERY competitive in the MA. Some more than others.

Beeker

Catching Spies · « **Reply #20 on:** December 02, 2002, 10:36:11 AM »

Game play has gotten boring but I believe AH is a game of what you make of it. There are plenty of features I would like to see to enhance game play.

Able to take a destroyer out on its own with/out gunners, depth charges.
Subs with deck guns.
Field ack open at all times to different players with 20 minute pentaly box once your killed at that ack position.
Different types of ack guns on the fields.
more tanks, field units.
Fix the LA7 primary fire/drop bombs at the same time.

I read that everyone wants game play to real as possible...fix game play that stops people making unreal manuavers....

Do everything possible to get the community to grow while I think most of the poeple who play AH are cool I would like to see 5k players online at once...only then will the pizza map be any good.

Since there is no infantry put the bases closer together I find it very boring to fly to a base that takes 10-12 minutes only to die to a better piloit "bet others feel the same way".

Yeager · « **Reply #21 on:** December 02, 2002, 11:13:15 AM »

They shut down the board because a bazillion dweebs kept hitting refreash for news all day long killing peoples ability to download the update once it was made avaliable.

Relax afterall, its just a game.

sling322 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 02, 2002, 12:00:13 PM »

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Originally posted by EvilDingo
I agree. I feel that HTC has taken a step back regarding the average joe. What was that deal with the shutting down the message board before the release of 1.10 (or was it 1.09?)

The deal with that was the amount of traffic on the board was affecting the login server and was causing people to not be able to log into the game....if I recall correctly what HT told me. I also believe that problem has been corrected and the two are no longer on the same box.

Vermillion · « **Reply #23 on:** December 02, 2002, 12:07:15 PM »

Actually Revvin thats not it at all. The only thing over in that other sim that interests me and makes me go "OH WOW" is its "open source" nature. The ability to contribute content to the game, which has gotten me interested in 3D modeling and how to program FM's.

I asked Pyro a very long time ago how I (or small groups of players working together) could contribute to AH in respect to new planes, but he declined the offer and continues to do so.

And the biggest reason that I've taken up 3D modeling as a hobby is the extreme lack of interest in flying the last 6 months or so. Admittedly, I am an ancient old timer who has "seen and done it all". But more frequent updates, and some new planes that would actually be useful in the MA would help quite a bit.

I don't think 1.11 will 'make or break' AH as the thread suggests. But I do agree with the premise that the updates have become less and less frequent, while adding less and less that is interesting to the average player.

ccvi · « **Reply #24 on:** December 02, 2002, 12:13:23 PM »

There will be 1.12 with mission based gameplay. I hope this includes the choice of aircraft, bringing the hangar queens to life.

Nilsen · « **Reply #25 on:** December 02, 2002, 12:17:56 PM »

Karnak

The P47M will never be a hangar queen....It will beat the crap out of the KI84

and rightFOOT.....the request for P47M is old

Rotorian · « **Reply #26 on:** December 02, 2002, 01:00:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Vermillion
Admittedly, I am an ancient old timer who has "seen and done it all".

You still dont look a day over 13

Karnak · « **Reply #27 on:** December 02, 2002, 01:10:23 PM »

The P-47M will be a hangar queen because it'll cost 80 bloody perk points to take it for a spin and have a P47M icon over it.

I have no doubt that the P-47M is a great fighter, just as I have no doubt that it'll be a pricey perk plane.

Me262, Tempest Mk V, F4U-4, Spitfire Mk XIV. All great fighters and all hangar queens.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #28 on:** December 02, 2002, 01:27:06 PM »

Who's this average joe/player I keep reading in this thread?

Certainly you aren't referring to the average joe/player that spends all of his time online in a quakeball?

Cuz if so... that average joe/player is quite content with the way the game is now.

End user's making FMs....
-SW

slimm50 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 02, 2002, 01:51:34 PM »

From flakbait: "AH is always fun, whether it be offline, in H2H, training tin horns or recreating historical battles. There's a spot for everyone's tastes here, ..."

Here, here!! I agree. I love AH (ducking and covering from rotten tomatos). I usually have a blast in the MA. But I can't adequately handle the planes they got now, why do I want more planes I'll be bad at flying?