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Offline Sandman

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« on: December 03, 2002, 09:58:50 AM »
My wife is in an english class. She's supposed to write an article arguing for or against high schools providing condoms to students.

We disagree. :)

Our position for our children has been one of preparation. We fully expect that our children will act irresponsibly. Hormones rage so loudly that they'll forget our guidance. I'm certain of it. Maybe I'm wrong to accept defeat and try to minimize the damage, but I think it's a realistic expectation. That said, if my teenage children engage in sexual activity, they are going to be in trouble. If they engage in unprotected sexual activity, they are in big trouble.

That said, I think the schools are completely out of line to provide condoms to students. I think it undermines parental authority, especially those parents that have a different perspective than ours with regard to sexual education and sexual activity among teenagers.

My wife thinks that the school can provide guidance to children that lack guidance at home. She considers teenage children with little or no guidance on sexual activity to be a threat to ours and that all of them should be taught to be prepared regardless of parental opinion.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2002, 10:01:35 AM »
yeah

put your daughter on the pill, give your son rubbers and tell them oh yeah by the way if you have sex you'll be grounded :rolleyes:

not too confusing a  message
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2002, 10:04:21 AM »
I don't see how it undermines parental authority given that they can go buy them at 7-11

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2002, 10:04:37 AM »
Sure beats buying formula or paying child support at a young age!

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2002, 10:05:00 AM »
I'm fully supportive of the availability of free contraception and education, over the age of 11 y/o.

Less unwanted pregnancy = less abortion.

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2002, 10:07:09 AM »
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yeah

put your daughter on the pill, give your son rubbers and tell them oh yeah by the way if you have sex you'll be grounded :rolleyes:

not too confusing a  message


Thanks Eagler. I'm not the least bit interested in your opinion of how I raise my children. You missed the point of the discussion. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2002, 10:10:36 AM »
Personally, I'm divided on the issue..on one hand your wife is right...there are parents out there too busy to be bothered with their children...in some cases both parents working fail to take time for their children.  In these cases, it may be a good idea that *someone* take the initiative (Public schools?)

OTOH, I also believe that it IS a parental responsibility, but how do we convince parents that they NEED to do their job?

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2002, 10:13:13 AM »
Dammit.  Why do I agree with Ripsnort?!  There's something wrong here, and I blame you Sandman.  Punk.


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PS...Don't listen to Eagler.  You'll never agree with him.  The day that you do, it's time to call it quits.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2002, 10:15:04 AM »
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I don't see how it undermines parental authority given that they can go buy them at 7-11


I doesn't, but they are more like to grab a couple out of an innoucuous basket at school then go up to pharmacist or cashier.  I remember the first time I bought condoms, it embarrassed the toejam out of me.

Chances are you teenager WILL have sex.  Do you want to to get AIDS, impregnated or impregnate someone.  It's called protection for a reason?  I would prefer my child to be protected then not.

As far as parents being mindful and doing their duty, it's a nice idea, but unfortunately it doesn't necessarily reflect reality.

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2002, 10:18:16 AM »
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As far as parents being mindful and doing their duty, it's a nice idea, but unfortunately it doesn't necessarily reflect reality.


So, there within lies the society problem ranging from Guns to Rubbers issues. ;)

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2002, 10:21:10 AM »
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Chances are you teenager WILL have sex.  Do you want to to get AIDS, impregnated or impregnate someone.  It's called protection for a reason?  I would prefer my child to be protected then not.


Thats fine and I agree. But do you think that this should go for children that are not your as well, regardless of their parental opinion?
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2002, 10:27:53 AM »
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Thats fine and I agree. But do you think that this should go for children that are not your as well, regardless of their parental opinion?


Yes.  Isn't there a difference between a school making condoms available to teenagers and a school GIVING them a condom.

Assuming a parent doesn't want the kid to have a condom, then school isn't upsurping the authority of the parent, the kid is.

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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2002, 10:35:41 AM »
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I don't see how it undermines parental authority given that they can go buy them at 7-11


I see it like this.  

I hope if my kids are dumb enough to have sex too early (I was) then I hope they can have easy access to condoms.

but I don't want their school to be the place where they get them.

It does undermine a parents authority when they say, 'no sex while you are a child in my home'

and the school says ' we are suposed to tell you not to have sex, but since we all know you all are going to do it anyway, here's the gear'

if they want sex bad enough they can deal with the embarasment at the drug store like the rest of us did.

btw-  hey little girl,  if that guy isn't willing to embarass himself to go get protection, then maybe he don't want you bad enough. wait for the right guy.

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2002, 10:36:09 AM »
Im a teen and to me having someone provide me with condoms is encouraging sexual activity at an early age and saying that hey yer not responsible take these...
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2002, 10:40:38 AM »
I have a 14 yr old daughter. I think they should hand out full body condoms to every teenaged pimpley faced twerp with decended balls in the city.

Then meat cleavers to every Father with a teenage daughter.

Yea, that should do it.