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Offline VFJACKAL

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« on: December 05, 2002, 06:52:32 PM »
Kinda makes ya wonder why some feel they have to do nothing but squeak moan groan and protest all that this country gives... and why some feel they must do all they can to make it so the can....

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By Frank Schaeffer
Tuesday, November 26, 2002


Before my son became a Marine, I never thought much about who was defending me. Now when I read of the war on terrorism or the coming conflict in Iraq, it cuts to my heart. When I see a picture of a member of our military who has been killed, I read his or her name very carefully. Sometimes I cry.

In 1999, when the barrel-chested Marine recruiter showed up in dress blues and bedazzled my son John, I did not stand in the way. John was headstrong, and he seemed to understand these stern, clean men with straight backs and flawless uniforms. I did not. I live on the Volvo-driving, higher education-worshiping North Shore of Boston. I write novels for a living. I have never served in the military.

It had been hard enough sending my two older children off to Georgetown and New York University. John's enlisting was unexpected, so deeply unsettling. I did not relish the prospect of answering the question "So where is John going to college?" from the parents who were itching to tell me all about how their son or daughter was going to Harvard. At the private high school John attended, no other students were going into the military.

"But aren't the Marines terribly Southern?" asked one perplexed mother while standing next to me at the brunch following graduation. "What a waste, he was such a good student," said another parent. One parent (a professor at a nearby and rather famous university) spoke up at a school meeting and suggested that the school should "carefully evaluate what went wrong."

When John graduated from three months of boot camp on Parris Island, 3,000 parents and friends were on the parade deck stands. We parents and our Marines not only were of many races but also were representative of many economic classes. Many were poor. Some arrived crammed in the backs of pickups, others by bus. John told me that a lot of parents could not afford the trip.

We in the audience were white and Native American. We were Hispanic, Arab and African American and Asian. We were former Marines wearing the scars of battle, or at least baseball caps emblazoned with battles' names. We were Southern whites from Nashville and skinheads from New Jersey, black kids from Cleveland wearing ghetto rags and white ex-cons with ham-hock forearms defaced by jailhouse tattoos. We would not have been mistaken for the educated and well-heeled parents gathered on the lawns of John's private school a half-year before.

After graduation one new Marine told John, "Before I was a Marine, if I had ever seen you on my block I would've probably killed you just because you were standing there." This was a serious statement from one of John's good friends, an African American ex-gang member from Detroit who, as John said, "would die for me now, just like I'd die for him."

My son has connected me to my country in a way that I was too selfish and insular to experience before. I feel closer to the waitress at our local diner than to some of my oldest friends. She has two sons in the Corps. They are facing the same dangers as my boy. When the guy who fixes my car asks me how John is doing, I know he means it. His younger brother is in the Navy.

Why were I and the other parents at my son's private school so surprised by his choice? During World War II, the sons and daughters of the most powerful and educated families did their bit. If the immorality of the Vietnam War was the only reason those lucky enough to go to college dodged the draft, why did we not encourage our children to volunteer for military service once that war was done?

Have we wealthy and educated Americans all become pacifists? Is the world a safe place? Or have we just gotten used to having somebody else defend us? What is the future of our democracy when the sons and daughters of the janitors at our elite universities are far more likely to be put in harm's way than are any of the students whose dorms their parents clean?

I feel shame because it took my son's joining the Marine Corps to make me take notice of who is defending me. I feel hope because perhaps my son is part of a future "greatest generation." As the storm clouds of war gather, at least I know that I can look the men and women in uniform in the eye. My son is one of them. He is the best I have to offer. He is my heart.

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2002, 09:20:40 PM »
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"But aren't the Marines terribly Southern?"


But of course this North Shore Bostonian matron would never think of herself as anything but an open-minded, fair, unbiased, non-predjudiced person.

Thanks, Jackal. Enjoyed reading that.

Don't worry though, there'll be a few along soon to jeer at the writer.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2002, 09:41:27 PM »
Ya know....I served in the Navy for 4 years. Got out to pursue other avenues , but never gave a second thought to going in the military right out of High School. It strikes me in a bad way that people think the way that those peope did. Where did we fail that student , or He had such potential.   Sometimes I think it would be nice to send the ones that don't want any part of the military or the ones that think we need no military to someplace like Iraq or the old Russia or some god awful country. To a place that you have no freedoms.  Then tell them the only way back to this country is to serve your country.   Wonder how many would think its so bad that Brave VOLUNTEERS keep them safe at night 24/7/365.:(

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2002, 12:16:11 AM »
i have as of yet not  seen my peace dividend

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2002, 12:31:38 AM »
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Originally posted by whgates3
i have as of yet not  seen my peace dividend


yeah right.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2002, 12:35:15 AM »
Very good article.  Sadly, alot of people still think like he used to.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2002, 09:21:12 AM »
In my North Shore Chicago surburban neighborhood you were a  loser to a great many people if you chose the military as enlisted, particularly when you had other options. I was only a weekend warrior for about seven years, but I doubt I will do anything, regardless of my success in an individual field, that is actuall as important again in my life. I have never been called upon to use my Armored Recon skills in real life, but what I learned as an NCO and a military instructor helps me to this day. I just gave a luncheon talk at a local petroleum club meeting, for example, and didn't bat an eye.

It's funny though. We had an E-7 in my unit, a Sgt. Kim Chee, who was actually the vice president for a major bank who likely pulled in a good 6 figure salary. What a squared away NCO. We also had a Captain who was an MD, but wanted to stay Cavalry instead of serving in the medical branch.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2002, 09:26:24 AM »
I thought is was a very touching and well written article.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2002, 09:59:25 AM »
very nice read!!!

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2002, 10:18:31 AM »
A very touching article.  It must be hard enough to send a son right out of high school off to the military with war clouds looming, without having to deal with this sort of nonsense from "friends".  

Looking at it from a slightly different perspective, I think it was generally recognized by American colleges and universities that the best classes of incoming freshman they'd ever had were the WWII vets who attended on the GI bill right after their discharges.  They were mature, serious, and EXTREMELY motivated.  Of course, they brooked no nonsense, and I think a lot of the collegiate silliness that was customary pre-war (like forcing freshman to wear beanies) went out the window during their time in school.

When this young man gets out of the Marines, he'll be far better equipped to take advantage of higher education, should he decide to pursue it (and I'll wager he won't be one of those setting fires if his team wins a frikkin' football game).

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2002, 10:20:36 AM »
God Bless our Men in Uniform.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2002, 01:31:30 PM »
I was in a very similar situation to this man's son when I enlisted in the USMC in high school.  My parents had pre-determined a course for my life that included going to a private high school, and then to be pampered at a nice private college in MA.  When I told them I wanted to serve my country, they fought me every step of the way.  They believed that I was far too educated to want to "waste my life in the Marines."  I was finally able to convince them by arguing that it was precisely because I was educated that I wished to serve.  I realized that it was because of the men and women who sacrificed throughout history that I was able to receive the education I did.  It was their sacrifice that allowed me to express my opinions and engage the freedoms of thought and speech.

Even though many members of my family had served, including my mother's own father who served as a Marine in World War I, all were shocked to find out I had enlisted.  Much of the reaction in that article was precisely what I had to face at family gatherings.  "I can't believe you are going to throw away your education," and, "It's too bad, you know, that you are hurting your parents like this."  More times than one I wished they actually understood what it was they were saying, but I would explain that my reasons were so that they could all enjoy themselves in their homes.  They would remain secure because of people like me who were willing to commit part of our lives to protect theirs.

When I left for Parris Island, my life changed completely.  I became more than I could have possibly imagined.  I developed mentally and physically more in those 13 weeks than I had in my entire life.  I learned to live my life by a very simple creed: discipline, courage and honor.  I became part of a family that lived by those same words.  When I graduated from boot camp and went back home, my family couldn't believe the changes.  My friends from high school didn't even recognize me when I showed up at a gathering.  One thing I did notice as people looked at me in my Dress Blues was they were all looking at me with a newfound respect.  Gone were the snide comments about wasting my life.

I served my country proudly.  I gave four years of my life so others could continue to live theirs, and I could go on and live mine.  Salute to all who have served their country, be it the USA, or any other.

Semper Fi.

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2002, 06:22:45 PM »
Couldn't have said it better.  Been there...done that...Got the Stripes and Tshirts......and dress Uniforms...Sebag full of Dungaress...Hats...Pictures.. .Memories...and most of all

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2002, 07:42:37 PM »
When I was in, there WAS alot of people from the south and midwest. Just seemed to be that way. The west coast was too busy protesting.  As long as you had a deferment that was current ;)

Navy 1971. Best thing that can ever happen to a young man ( or women ) in my view.  I don't regret a minute.