Can I push a button or what?

[ArtLaws]

How many times in a row, can you do a hammerhead on someone who
              YOU KNOW is a "newbee" before you start to question what kind of pilot,
              player, and person you are. Of course it is a valid ACM. I never said "IT
              DIDNT HAPPEN AT ALL". I believe the AMOUNT of HH are exagerated
              and there are 2 things that make this possible. Your vision is impaired and
              the added inticement of an icon number, getting smaller and smaller, ever
              so slowly, in front of you. In war we want to kill people off permanently, in
              this game and community we shouldn't.....Im going to go put my
              rectantular buckit on my head now and run some red lights on my bicycle.

[R4M]

When I fight in the MA I dont care a single bit about if the red plane is a newbie or not. If I rope a dope him, and I kill him, its another kill for me, regardless if he is a newbie or not. If he catches me and kills me, is a kill for him, regardless he is a newbie or not.

If I am in the TA and I do a couple of vertical reversals, and I see some newbie trying to follow them I immediatly tell them not to do that, why not to do it and how to move if the enemy tries to rope him.

If I am in the Main arena I will smile and search for more cannon fodder. Sorry, but it is that way. When I first came here I had no idea on even how to take off properly, and I expected no clemency (other than not being shot in my chute, wich BTW happened lots of times  ).

TA is the school. MA is hell. I dont expect a single bit of clemency when I am flying in the MA (And I rarely get it), tho sometimes I do let hurt enemies go away if they have shown themselfs in a good fight with me.

 I have fallen in rope a dopes in the MA, just as anyone else. And they are pissing off because is the worse, most humillating way to die for an experienced AH pilot.

But frankly I would like to see more vertical fighting and hammerheads in the MAin arena than the Headons we see today. And the more time I fly AH the less I care. THere is no such thing as clemency in the MA, and I knew it since day one. If someone kills me, is a kill for him, newbie or not.And the inverse is truth aswell.

And I will play any nasty dirty tricks to kill a N1K2 or F4U1-c, newbie or not. Vulching, engine out killing, whatever. And If I can get a shot at his chute, still better.

TA is a school. MA is hell. Period.

[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 05-01-2001).]

[Kieran]

Didn't want to pile on in the other thread, Art. Since you started another one here, let me say a little...

I was in the first training corps, so I know how tough a job you have at times, and how much you give of yourself to commit the time you apparently have. This of course has been overlooked by the bulk of the people attacking you, and is a shame.

OTOH, you have made an error in your approach to teaching newbies, something I am sure you have gathered by now. The absolute first thing I taught all new flyers that had any ability to maintain control of the aircraft was to go vertical at any opportunity- or at the very least, fight to maintain alt advantage as long as possible. As someone eloquently stated, this is a game of inches, and the person that manages e the best wins in most cases. The vertical fight is essential in accomplishing this task.

The argument "this wasn't used so often in RL" won't work because the MA isn't RL. The reality is that someone that manages e better than you kills you most of the time. Whether or not pilots relied on the HH as their primary tactic is immaterial; what does matter is it is a viable RL tactic 1 vs. 1, the favorable conditions being more prevalent in the MA than in RL.

I know right now it is tough to bear the weight of all that are attacking you, but just move on. Yes, you made an error in judgement, yes, you doubled the error by posting angrily on the topic, but that should hardly offset the good you attempt to do.

[zapkin]

[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: zapkin ]

[easymo]

  Art, I know we have had our ups and downs   . But, this is not a flame.  If you  are an official trainer I feel what I am about to say is important to keep in mind.  H2H is not the real game.  Nobody really cares about H2H. There is no score, its just a place for people to try out the game, and have a good time. The mindless FFA's, that you favor, are a good example.  They have nothing to do with the real game, but what the heck, they are fun.  ( do wonder if its not a nasty surprise for newies to find out the icons disappear in the main though). My point is this, lighten up in H2H. Your language, when you get mad,is very offensive.  You allow racial slurs with out comment,while kicking out people for not having a name.  These two things are,IMO about the only two legitimate reasons for booting someone.  If you spent as much time studying how people were shooting you down, as you do figuring an excuse to boot them, You might learn something worth teaching.

  BTW. This is how to defeat a hammerhead.  You have to have a reasonable amount of E to begin with of course. You do not follow the con straight up.  You follow him up,off to the side. He has a big problem. He has to turn that thing around,to do you any harm. At that point he is very vulnerable. He is out of E and you are still zooming, when he goes over the top.  If you are off to the side,he cant turn to you. But you can use a rudder shot to take him. If he turns the other way you are on his 6 and should have an easy shot. If you feel you are running out of E just level off, (slight downward plane) and drag him back down and bleed some more of his E.

[This message has been edited by easymo (edited 05-01-2001).]

[G10Whore]

the guys has emotional and mental problems

im not laughing either

he needs help

[MANDOBLE]

ArtLaws, hope you know the vertical zoom climb is not necessary an offensive move.
It is a way to keep most of your static energy back after a dive and a very usefull move into an environment with multiple bandits. If some guy attempts to track you in the climb and stalls, well, he will be an easy kill. But this is not the main purpose of these climbs.
Most of the times you are tracking a con at hi speed and then spot a higher dot aproaching, then you simply pull up to maximize your chances to fight the new con while keeping an offensive possition against the first one, or to maximize the chances to dive away from the first and the new cons. If you simply extend while climbing, you'll be far away from the first con to reengange effectively, and you have given more time and distance to the second con to set up a good possition to kill you or to deffend effectively the first con.

Cant understand your problems with this useful move.

[zapkin]

G10potato....I suggest you take a close look at yourself before you pass judgement on others.