It's Time for Fair & Equitable Pricing

[Torgo]

 

Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy:
Torgo, Westy, Lethturn, SOB, is Pakrat talking about this or I misread your posts?

Pakrat's original post was whining about the AW guys getting a discount from HTC. Then there was a bunch of replies from us over the next hour or so pointing out there was no evidence the AW guys were getting a discount.

So then Pakrat quickly edited his post once he realized he made no sense whatsoever, and changed it to whining about the old issue of HTC's study on different pricing structures.

But now all of the replies to his original post make absolutely no sense since he edited the post starting this thread so much it bears absolutely no resemblance to what was posted originally.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

oh ok! Rofl! Sneacky Pakrat hehehe.

[paintmaw]

""IF"" wwiionline is what they say it is , Aces is gonna be in big trouble . If there were a sim out there with better graphics , effects , and a good FM for 1/3 the money , or even the same money , why stay here?? If ht guys are giving a select group of people lower pricing , Its their company to do with what they wish . Live with it or cancell . IMHO wwiionline will be a bug-warp-fest (hope I'm wrong)

[Torgo]

Eh, for quite a long time WWIIOL will have a small VERY early war planeset, and one which has a lot of AC that the "Average Joe" hasn't heard of.

I don't see WWIIOL as any sort of threat at all. It's an entirely different game.

Also, it's not at all clear to me whether you can sign up for WWIIOL and just jump in an airplane, anyway. Mind you, I haven't spent hours laboriously reading their boards, but I'm under the impression that you'll have to toil away for a while as a common footsoldier just to GET a plane...well, at least a good plane.

[Jigster]

If you live outside Texas, you already are getting AH at a discount rate

[fscott]

It's not about whether or not I think AH is worth $30, it coems down to, will $30 keep me around as I begin to get tired of the sim?

Admittedly, AH is the only sim to ever keep me interested this long of a time for one duration.  The only other sims, was WB, which kept me interested on and off for over 2 years, and Rogue Spear, which kept me going non-stop for 3 months.

AH has now been my past time since Oct. 2000. Six months, but I am getting somwewhat tired of it, and am currently growing restless.  I will be trying Operation Flashpoint next, which I hear is the da bomb.

So the question really coems down to what price would keep me as a monthly paying customer, even if I would only fly maybe 2 hours a week or less.

fscott

[Westy]

 I'd have to say the biggest challenge for me is the found in the extremely high skill level I meet in the arena. I could get bored flying a certain plane (not reeally, but I'm "just saying") but I'll never get bored fighting another human opponant be it one-on-one or ten-on-one.
 THAT is the single largest drawing point that MMPG's have for me. AH is the best program/sim for me, to date, that allows me to feel like I'm at the stick of a WWII aircombat aircraft. In other words it's tops for the immersion.

 I provide the adrenaline. AcesHigh provides the ride.

 I also like that AH has become a huge melting pot where I can fly against folks I'd only read famous tales or stories about, DoK, HiTech/Pryo, (and MANY more, too much to name all), fly against WBers who I'd known from usenet or readin about WB's scenarios, FA guys and many folks from AW that I've known. We've got some growing pains, but we're doing good. I think anyway.

 -Westy

[hazed-]

I think AH is worth $30 BUT i dont think its right players who have played aces high since beta days and so are long term customers have not been rewarded for their loyalty to this product.
This whole thing could be settled if there was even a small reduction.We'd at least feel that HTC is trying to give us the best deal.
If it was my company and i had customers who have been with me over a year id give them something to show i appreciate them being there.
I have nothing personal against the HTC crew and i think they are great guys one and all, but the fact that some people are playing the same game for less money infuriates me!.
I know it shouldnt really,there are legitimate reasons for the 'market research offer',but it still annoyed me.After reading pyros post on how they were looking into reducing price accross the board i felt i could accept it.
I dont understand why nothing more has been said by HTC.
Sorry but if there is the possibility of a lower price id like it.I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to pay more.
If HTC were to post a message saying it could not reduce the price and gave us some reasons then fine, at least i have information with which to decide if i feel $30 is fair.At the moment im paying $30 to play AH but this is the only game i pay for to play online when others come along which im sure they will I wont be able to afford to keep 2 games running,simple as that!
This is an expensive hobby for me.

hazed



[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 03-25-2001).]

[Revvin]

Hazed it was people like you and other longtime players I had in mind when I made the quote:
 

there are guys here that have stuck by Aces High right from beta the kind of guys that have shown real loyalty

in my post above, it seems crazy to me that in most other forms of business you get rewarded for your loyalty yet in Aces High they offer reduced rates to people who have gone out of their way to bad mouth Aces High and the community here...If Aces High stays the same I'll still pay $30 because I think its worth it but if it stays $30 then EVERYONE  should pay $30, of course if we all get a reduced rate even $5 off the normal rate then thats a bonus.

[This message has been edited by Revvin (edited 03-26-2001).]

[miko2d]

 

Originally posted by PakRat:
There are still a boatload of people out there at $5, $10, $15, $20, and $25 while I pay $30. HTC said they were going to examine the market and implement a new price structure. We have yet to see it or an explanation. It can't take that long to analyze the data.

 In order to perform a market research HTC crew gave up their money to subsidize some players in return for information - by taking home less money as salaries.
 If you do not think AH is worth $30, do not pay it.
 If you want to get $5 of $10 a month, go beg on the street, not from Hitech, Pyro and crew. They are not the richest people around. They have business expences, families etc.

miko

[Westy]

Bravo Miko! that is the best damn way I think I've ever seen anyone ever put it.

  -Westy

[AKSeaWulfe]

 

Originally posted by miko2d:
 If you want to get $5 of $10 a month, go beg on the street

But I already do. I stand next to some poor fella that holds up a "Will work for food" sign that he made out of urine soaked card board and used some foul smelling brown stuff to write with. He's in raggity clothes too, he sure knows how to put on a show for people.

Then at the end of the day, I kick his bellybutton and run off with his earnings.

Hey.. I'm an addict and I'll do anything to get my fix.
-SW


[This message has been edited by AKSeaWulfe (edited 03-26-2001).]

[sling322]

Great....here we go again.  

[LD]

 

Originally posted by Westy:
[chuckled over. No. I am not Rags. I am the 'Westy' that played AW over a year ago. Although  I did test (for an hour) the new AW:MV on EA's beta about three weeks ago and when I did I took RAGS handle so he couldn't have it.    (Image removed from quote.)

 Alright Westy!    Damn.. wish I'd thought of that... <G>

[Sandman_SBM]

 

I still think that the only fair solution is across the board pricing or a tiered structure based on arenas/hours/etc.

Don't like the pricing? Two options...

1. Cancel the subscription.
2. Create your own game and implement any pricing system you desire.

I'm going place a target on my chest and admit that I pay $19.95. Okay... bad juju for the customers paying $29.95 but good biz for HTC. He gets an additional $240 per year from yours truly that he would not have received. I was not willing to try out AH long enough at the full rate but the reduced rate got me in the door. Do I think AH is worth $29.95 a month. Oh yeah... certainly. Am I going to pay that much? I'm not stupid.

No one screams bloody murder at the airlines. On one flight, you can have a difference in fare of 600% or more. Now, that is worth getting angry about.

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