Author Topic: It's Time for Fair & Equitable Pricing (Read 957 times)

miko2d · « **Reply #30 on:** March 26, 2001, 04:00:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
...I pay $19.95. Okay... bad juju for the customers paying $29.95 but good biz for HTC. He gets an additional $240 per year...

You are wrong here about the reason - HTC did not offer you the lower rate to get more revenue. If that were the case, they would have offered it to everyone.
They did that to determine how many more people they would get and if the total net profit they would receive that way after additional expences would cover the shortfall in revenue per customer. That is what I understood from their posts. I would venture to say that they were interested to see what kind of quality of people they would get if they lower prices.

Apparently they determined that lowering prices was not worth it - otherwise we would see them lower the price which they (so far) did not. But that is my pure speculation.

So you did not get preferential treatment. While HTC crew can certainly do that, it was not a case. You are just paid $10 month out of HTC pocket for supplying them with information they needed.

Of course it is all the same to you in the end. Just fly and enjoy

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You do not have the best deal - Duma apparently gets his AH flying complimentary - for writing Loose Rivets - where is the next one, BTW, you lazy...!

miko

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Eagler · « **Reply #31 on:** March 26, 2001, 04:09:00 PM »

It's worth every penny. Heck, it's two bottles of my wife's wine which vanishes in less than a week, faster if I help

. It value prioritizing. If you can't afford it, try fighter ace ($9.95 a month)and stop your whining.

Thank you

Eagler

pssst AH, can you slip me one of those $4.95 accounts?

Revvin · « **Reply #32 on:** March 26, 2001, 04:44:00 PM »

I really hope you're not the same Sandman that ran a Freehost web-site, if you are then perhaps its some kind of macabre humour that somebody that supported the ripping off of others peoples hard work gets reduced rates here, of course if you're no the same person then you have my apologies.

easymo · « **Reply #33 on:** March 26, 2001, 07:00:00 PM »

It should be obvious considering what happen to AW that pricing alone is not enough. A TRULY competitive sim going for 10 bucks a month would put pressure on HTC. But that has not happened yet.

Sandman_SBM · « **Reply #34 on:** March 26, 2001, 10:01:00 PM »

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You are wrong here about the reason - HTC did not offer you the lower rate to get more revenue. If that were the case, they would have offered it to everyone.

Nevertheless... increased revenue was the result. All intentions aside.

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somebody that supported the ripping off of others peoples hard work

Not even going to get into that issue here. My opinion of Itmo's Freehost is still posted at Dogfighter.com. That opinion is unchanged although irrelevant to the current Freehost. The current version is not Itmo's nor have I ever supported it.

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A TRULY competitive sim going for 10 bucks a month would put pressure on HTC. But that has not happened yet.

Nor will it any time soon I think. Of course, there's another way to compete against lower prices. That's higher quality. Can't see that kind of competition coming any time soon either. Of course, there is that other arena sim on the horizon... but who knows?

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Antix · « **Reply #35 on:** March 26, 2001, 11:26:00 PM »

I guess that Sandman hasn't heard of World War II Online, with its 9.95 a month price, and its incredibly awesome flight sim built in with a tank sim, an infrantry sim, a ship sim, a sub sim... all in the same game. all in the first person. all in a short time.

Pyro · « **Reply #36 on:** March 26, 2001, 11:44:00 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d:
Apparently they determined that lowering prices was not worth it - otherwise we would see them lower the price which they (so far) did not. But that is my pure speculation.

Lack of news on this front should not be construed as bad news. Determining a plan of action and executing it are not always actions that can quickly follow one another. Long term benefits can't be achieved without overcoming the short term obstacles. A lot of companies have died ignominious deaths in the past year hoping for long term windfalls while ignoring short term pitfalls.

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Revvin · « **Reply #37 on:** March 27, 2001, 12:38:00 AM »

Sandman> Did you or did you not run a web-site giving links to download files for Freehost? was it your site iEN took legal action to shut down? are you the same Sandman that pationately supported Freehost wherever it was discussed on a forum?

Its a simple question, please answer, again my apologies if you are not this scum

-tronski- · « **Reply #38 on:** March 27, 2001, 03:16:00 AM »

Err
when you end up with an exchange rate of about A$1 = USD$0.50 ,
and you are paying double because of it...THEN you something to whine about..

Tronsky
486 Sqn (NZ), "hiwa hau maka"

Sandman_SBM · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2001, 05:37:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Antix:
I guess that Sandman hasn't heard of World War II Online, with its 9.95 a month price, and its incredibly awesome flight sim built in with a tank sim, an infrantry sim, a ship sim, a sub sim... all in the same game. all in the first person. all in a short time.

That would be that other sim on the horizon... It hasn't went past beta right?

Westy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 27, 2001, 07:39:00 AM »

Antix, many of us are impatiently awaiting for World War 2-ALL Generals Online All the Time too. For reasons other than you might be able to imagine.

'1 5N1p3R u!!"

-Westy

Revvin · « **Reply #41 on:** March 27, 2001, 08:50:00 AM »

Still waiting Sandman answer the question please

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #42 on:** March 27, 2001, 09:48:00 AM »

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Sandman> Did you or did you not run a web-site giving links to download files for Freehost? was it your site iEN took legal action to shut down? are you the same Sandman that pationately supported Freehost wherever it was discussed on a forum?

Sometimes the lack of a reply speaks louder than any words could.

AKDejaVu

Staga · « **Reply #43 on:** March 27, 2001, 10:22:00 AM »

Looks like all links are dead.
http://www.screaminbluemessiahs.org/xarc_9907.html

sling322 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 27, 2001, 11:49:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Antix:
I guess that Sandman hasn't heard of World War II Online, with its 9.95 a month price, and its incredibly awesome flight sim built in with a tank sim, an infrantry sim, a ship sim, a sub sim... all in the same game. all in the first person. all in a short time.

Can you say "Vaporware"? I knew ya could.

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