Author Topic: Diving and max G test (Read 1791 times)

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #45 on:** December 30, 2002, 01:51:20 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
With the 190D9 I got about 6G's sustained- I never hit 9 G's at all.

Urchin, joy setting indicate max pitch in both ways when I pull/push it to extremes. I repeated the test five times with same results and never was able to get 6G substained, only for a millisecond (just a bounce to 6G and then drop to 4 for a pair of seconds).

Please, be sure test conditions are the same:
Terrain dueling, base A1 (15k), taking off N runaway.
Offline mode.
190D9 50% fuel.
WEP and combat trim enabled.
As soon as you take off, start a pure vertical dive to the sea and try to recover once speed touches 550mph (red neddle), wep and combat trim still enabled.
Dont use manual trim, just pull joy as hard as possible until level flight is achieved.

If following these steps you are able to keep 6G substained, please, film it and post the file here. 6G substained implies 6G since your start to pull the joy until you achieve a level flight.

Wilbus · « **Reply #46 on:** December 30, 2002, 05:15:13 AM »

Whgates, what book?

whgates3 · « **Reply #47 on:** December 30, 2002, 05:52:36 AM »

some other interesting info in "Heaven Next Stop" by 190 pilot Gunther Bloemertz (not related to this thread but interesting nontheless)...in spring '44 toejamler ordered LW pilots to stop attacking bomber boxes head on as they weren't stopping enough of the bombers (remember that LW guncam film that was posted a few months ago & how everyone was wondering why those nitwits were attacking from astern?)...homosexuality was tolerated amongst LW pilots (@least in JG 26)...still only halfway done w/ book

Wilbus · « **Reply #48 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:09:29 AM »

Think homosexuality was accepted in all of LW as was "other" thoughts as long as the high commands (Göring etc) didn't find out. From the books I've read, those few who were Nazis in LW were'nt popular at all amongst the others in the squad.

BenDover · « **Reply #49 on:** December 30, 2002, 12:48:31 PM »

Achtung! bellybutton Bandits!

Urchin · « **Reply #50 on:** December 30, 2002, 02:45:19 PM »

Ok, did the test again, got a little bit under 6G's sustained for the 190D9. Did it three times, 1 time the plane did seem to overspeed and lost elevator authority and it augered.

The other two times it pulled out OK.

Started my own thread about the Typhoon, really because I'm confused about this one. Whats the point of this one? What are you trying to say? That the 190 is undermodelled or the Typhoon is overmodelled, or both?

Furthermore, what evidence do you have to suggest that the 190 could pull out harder than it does, and what evidence that the Typhoon couldn't pull out as hard as it does?

I don't have anything either way, just to clear that up.

Urchin · « **Reply #51 on:** December 30, 2002, 02:45:48 PM »

eww... double post. First time thats happened to me I think.

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #52 on:** December 30, 2002, 08:10:09 PM »

Urchin, as far as I know, Typh would compress before 550mph at sea level, my test and video demostrated that a Typh diving vertically at 560 MPH near sea level can still pull more than 9G substained.

In the other hand, I repeated the test 2 more times, no way with 190D9 to get 6 or 5.5G substained. Are u sure u dived perfectly vertical?