What would Mohammed drive?

[AKIron]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Here's one

Two

oops, this one lived

I may have read too quickly but I failed to see Robertson's or Falwell's name in either article. From what little I know of either man I'd say both would vehemently denounce the murder of any abortionist.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by AKIron
I may have read too quickly but I failed to see Robertson's or Falwell's name in either article. From what little I know of either man I'd say both would vehemently denounce the murder of any abortionist.

No more directly involved than most fundamentalist Mullahs were with the WTC attacks.

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[AKIron]

Originally posted by midnight Target
No more directly involved than most fundamentalist Mullahs were with the WTC attacks.

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How true that is I can't say. Rather, let's look at the activity that is widely supported by Muslims in Islamic countries. Can you see a difference now or need I go into detail?

It wasn't a picture of some well known peace loving Imam that Robertson and Falwell were singing with but a known and brutal terrorist. Would you intentionally distort the facts?

[whgates3]

last week i read 4th Fighter Group ace James Goodson's autobiography "Tumult in the Clouds".  he fell into german hands and was about to executed as a terrorist when he was saved by LW interregator Hans Schraff (who, it turns out, already knew everything Goodson knew and a lot more)..."terrorist" is just what a government calls it's enemies to make you hate them

[AKIron]

Originally posted by whgates3
last week i read 4th Fighter Group ace James Goodson's autobiography "Tumult in the Clouds".  he fell into german hands and was about to executed as a terrorist when he was saved by LW interregator Hans Schraff (who, it turns out, already knew everything Goodson knew and a lot more)..."terrorist" is just what a government calls it's enemies to make you hate them

or it could be the fact that they (the alleged terrorist) hate you, procalim their hate for you, and go about conceiving and acting to destroy you and/or your way of life?

[weazel]

Originally posted by AKIron
Tell me again how many have Robertson and Fallwell murdered?

Here are their comments in context:

Pat Robertson began the interview asking Falwell what his response has been to the terrorist attacks.  Falwell said there had been a massive prayer gathering of members of his congregation along with students from Liberty University.  He told the TV audience that they had humbled themselves before God, prayed for President Bush and his advisers and for the victims of the attacks.

Falwell then likened the attacks to Pearl Harbor and that at that time, Hitler wanted to destroy the Jews and conquer the world.  Now, "Islamic fundamentalists, radical terrorists, Middle-Eastern monsters" want to destroy Israel and conquer the world.

The two men then talked about religious revival and whether the events of September 11 might spark spiritual renewal in America.

Then Falwell said, "What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."
Robertson replied,  "Well, Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven't begun to see what they can do to the major population."
Falwell said, "The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen."
Robertson said, "I totally concur, and the problem is we've adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system."
Falwell added, "Pat, did you notice yesterday that the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, the People for the American Way, NOW, etc., were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress, as they went out on the steps and and called out to God in prayer and sang 'God bless America' and said, let the ACLU be hanged. In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time, calling on God."

The cartoon is poking fun at a couple of religious nut-jobs who said 9/11 is punishment from God because  America has turned away from him.

Basically the same message the other religious nut-job depicted in that cartoon bleats...

Dunno how many murders the other two filthy scum bags are responsible for, probably not many as they are too busy bilking simple minded folks out of their money to do any wet work.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by weazel
The cartoon is poking fun at a couple of religious nut-jobs who said 9/11 is punishment from God because  America has turned away from him.

I beg to differ. The cartoon is calling Robertson and Falwell religious fanatics and making them partners with OBL. There's no fun in it and while Robertson and Falwell may be considered religious fanatics I challenge you to show me where they've done any harm. On the other hand I bet it'd be very easy for me to dig up and post extensive humanitarian efforts on both their parts.

[weazel]

Osamas words on America for comparison with Pat and Jerrys words?

Or how about his humanitarian efforts in regards to "his" followers?

There's no difference between bin laden and the two con artists he's depicted with.

The whole point here is how people use "God" to suit there own agendas.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by weazel
Osamas words on America for comparison with Pat and Jerrys words?

Or how about his humanitarian efforts in regards to "his" followers?

There's no difference between bin laden and the two con artists he's depicted with.

The whole point here is how people use "God" to suit there own agendas.

roadkill, there's all the difference in the world. I'll dig up and post the pros and you post the cons on Robertson and Falwell. Or would you rather stick to vague accusations that you don't have to back up?

[weazel]

If your comfortable with Pat and Jerry pimping "God" out for there own agendas I'm not going to be able to change your mind.

It's all a matter of perspective...but blinders considerably narrow a persons field of vision.

[AKIron]

As I suspected, you're willing to sling mud without really looking to see if it's warranted. Roberton's and Falwell's ministries do a great deal to help needy people all over the world. I find it very repulsive to see them lumped in with a mass muderer that did nothing for his own people but repress their women and starve their children.

[weazel]

Quit trying to spin the cartoon out of context.

Let me take a wild assed guess....you must be a republican too?  

[AKIron]

Originally posted by weazel
Quit trying to spin the cartoon out of context.

Let me take a wild assed guess....you must be a republican too?  

Uh, let me see if I got it right. Robertson, OBL, and Falwell singing together from a "hymnal" labled "Kill the infidel".

Here's my take, typical anti-god agenda attempting to discredit Christianity by associating prominent Christian leaders with the fanaticism of OBL.

The reality is OBL has done nothing but subjugate and destroy while the other two spread their religion through helping people survive and have better lives.

Can you refute this?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by midnight Target
No more directly involved than most fundamentalist Mullahs were with the WTC attacks.
 

How many virgins did Robertson promise to Michael Frederick Griffin?

Anyway, the cartoonist got it wrong.  A pinto comes standard with pyrotechnics.

[whgates3]

Originally posted by AKIron
or it could be the fact that they (the alleged terrorist) hate you, procalim their hate for you, and go about conceiving and acting to destroy you and/or your way of life?

my own gov't does much more to destroy my way of life than any other organization