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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2003, 03:42:33 PM »
So what, if you dont like them smoking go somewhere else..

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2003, 04:07:11 PM »
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If you want to smoke in public, then don't exhale.  If I want to chew my gum, I'm not sticking bits of my gum in your mouth.  If I want to eat a candy bar, I don't rub the scent into your clothing or force you to chew on some of it.  If you want to smoke in public, then do not exhale...or do not smoke.  Poor whiney smokers who are so mistreated.


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If I owned a restaurant or bar, and I should get to choose my smoking policy, and those who came in my bar could choose to patronize, or not.

My choice, their choice, and the choice of those who would work for me.  If I could make a better living choosing a different policy, that should be my right, and no government nanny should make the choice for me.

By the way, I smoked 2 or 3 cigs when I was 12, haven't since...  I kicked the habit, anyone can.
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2003, 04:20:12 PM »
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If I owned a restaurant or bar, and I should get to choose my smoking policy, and those who came in my bar could choose to patronize, or not.

I agree.

I'm talking strictly about the workplace and other "common" public places such as the airport, schools, etc.

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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2003, 04:34:39 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So what, if you dont like them smoking go somewhere else..


Guess what, the worm has turned, now I can go pretty much wherever I want without being assualted by cigarette smoke.

I'm all for freedom to do whatever you want and I have family and friends that smoke. I don't and never have preached to them the evils of smoking but I have no sympathy for those that feel their right to smoke wherever they want is being infringed upon.

You wanna smoke, you go somewhere else.
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2003, 05:07:41 PM »
actually, the product that comes from a vehicle's exhaust is not the same thing as the gasoline you pumped in.  Cars dont give out gasoline fumes, its a completely changed (and deadlier) product. Contact with gasoline and oil over prolonged periods of time does give cancer.. its the same principle with first-hand smokers.

Second hand smoking however, is the equivalent of someone washing his hands in gasoline once every 2 months. Or of someone taking a whiff at a car's exhaust once a week.

Cigarretes give your hit of nicotine and all the other crap in it by actually BURNING to create the smoke you inhale. Now, next time you see a smoker, pay attention to his cigarrete, not the person giving it a blowjob. You will notice a significant amount of that smoke NOT going into the smoker's mouth, but rather into the non-smokers around him.

Also worthy of note, every time you inhale you breathe in about (if memory serves me right) 1 liter of air. You exhale the same amount. However, from that liter of air you inhaled, less than half of the "fresh air" you inhaled is actually absorbed by your lungs...the rest is exhaled along with CO2 from your body.

So puff that little cigarrete again, exhale the smoke. From that smoke, so will less than half of what you inhaled be absorbed by your lungs.

So you see, second hand smoking is the SAME as being a smoker yourself, the only difference is first hand smokers get a much more "pure" amount of smoke on their lungs (thus why they turn soot black), while second hand smokers get a diluted version of it, because the smoke spreads out with the air as it travels the distance between the smoker and yourself.

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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2003, 05:27:42 PM »
I hate smoking, but I dont go crying about it like you do...

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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2003, 07:03:53 PM »
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I hate smoking, but I dont go crying about it like you do...


oh yeah, you never whine about anything :rolleyes:
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2003, 06:58:44 AM »
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oh yeah, you never whine about anything :rolleyes:


Gotta admit AKIron... your anti-smoking posts are pretty whiney.  Ya sound like a little girl to be honest.  "Oh poor me I saw a whiff smoke fly by I'M GOING TO DIE OF CANCER NOW!!"  Smokwhiners won the battle... so you really don't need to whine about it anymore.  You Smokewhiners deserve the ridicule you bring upon yourselves.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2003, 10:38:13 AM »
In CA we non-smokers won the battle.  The only whiners I ever see are the smokers.  Something about us infringing on their right to make me inhale their cigarette smoke-waste and their right to make me smell like an ash tray.  Go smoke all you want, I just don't want to inhale it or wear it and get over it.

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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2003, 11:01:24 AM »
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Gotta admit AKIron... your anti-smoking posts are pretty whiney.  Ya sound like a little girl to be honest.  "Oh poor me I saw a whiff smoke fly by I'M GOING TO DIE OF CANCER NOW!!"  Smokwhiners won the battle... so you really don't need to whine about it anymore.  You Smokewhiners deserve the ridicule you bring upon yourselves.


If you'd stick to the facts instead of making them up you'd see in one of my posts that I couldn't care less if smoking was even harmful. I'd still deny someone the "right" to burn my eyes and stink up my clothes. I tend to call what I'm doing gloating rather than whining.

Whining would be me complaining that smokers are allowed to smoke wherever they want, and they aren't. Or it might be me complaining (whining) about the fact I'm no longer free to stink up anyplace I want.

If you can't see the difference no problem. Call me a whiner if it makes you feel less of one, no sweat.
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2003, 11:05:33 AM »
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I could care less if second hand smoke isn't harmful to my health. I had to work around smokers for years. Always burned my eyes and stunk up my clothes. Did many of them give a damn, hell no. No more smoking in public, hooray!


I totally agree.
I could care less about the 'dangers' involved with second hand smoke.  I'm sure I breathe far worse daily (though much less now that I moved up here).  

I just can't stand the stink and discomfort of feeling like I can't breathe.
Outside I could care less.. smoke away yellow-toothed, smoke-laden lung-hackers.  go for it.