Author Topic: We STILL have stupid GV problems? (Read 351 times)

bj229r · « **on:** January 02, 2003, 10:35:37 PM »

During a long study tonite--lost 4 tigers--2 to other tigers..2 to panzers---ALL but one were 1 shot kills from dead front--if there was ANYwhere a tank would be solid is the front?? It seems now everyone knows tiger has a paper nose--im not drivin em anymore---other item--tiger kills vh..kills me (ok..i hit him heap many times with panzer...nothin)---then i sit in tower and watch him drive INTO map room..3 min later..VH ups..i up 2 panzers--aim at map room..nothin (cant SEE him..only know he is there..as rounds are comin out)--kills me twice more..kills vh aGIN from inside his cocoon--i thought that was all over with? damnit

Shane · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2003, 10:56:19 PM »

on the pizza map, umm v46 or 47... twice when i spawn a tiger, i spawned right inside a wall and insta-boom!

annoying to say the least.

Karnak · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2003, 01:45:51 AM »

I shot a Tiger 10 times in the nose with a PnZ IV H tonight. All 10 rounds richocheted off of him, then he found the range and gave me a one hit trip back to the tower.

I came back in a Tiger, found him on his spawn point and put 5 rounds into him, the 5th round actually doing something and killing him.

He respawned, I put 1 round into him and he exploded.

Basically, the PnZ IV H cannot penetrate the frontal armor of the Tiger unless it gets pretty close.

The 88mm on the Tiger can penetrate from a good deal further out.

You are pretty safe in a long range gun duel with a PnZ IV H when you're in a Tiger, but all bets are off when fighting another Tiger at long range. The armor simply isn't thick enough to reliably defend against other Tigers.

Replicant · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2003, 05:49:32 AM »

Think it's simply called lack of consistancy.

I've been in a Pnzr IV and killed a Tiger with one shot. Next time it took 20 shots.

In Tiger versus Pnzr, at short range, hit the Pnzr twice, he volleys back 2 shots, I die. Both on front armour.

Bombs... sometimes a 500lb will kill, other times I've seen in the region of 8000lbs plus rockets dropped in its immediate area. If that can't kill the tank then fine, but surely it would have killed the crew!?

bj229r · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2003, 09:06:44 AM »

seems quite invulnerable to most anything from the air--nikis..la7's..spits..tiffs were all strafin me at one point..no damage..lotta close egg hits too in fast...tiger WOULD be best last-gasp-measure to defend map room--need direct 1k egg hit..or another tank to kill it--btw..failed to mention that SOMETHING..which wasnt an airplane.salvo'd 3 sets of rockets at me last night in 1 of my tank duels--damndest thing i ever saw---looked like when pt boat salvos it rockets--except too far from water--the third time that happened the guy in the tiger got the kill on me...? (ok..COULD have been 10 gv's JUST on other side of dune ALL firing at once..ALL zoomed in on me...nah.)

Pooh21 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2003, 09:35:05 AM »

Last night I was in a tiger headed for a spawn point, squaddie says theres a flak just over the hill in front,very close. I come to a stop and he pops over the hill directly in front of me not 100 meters away. I fire AP watch the shot bounce off his nose. Fire again, same result, aim for turret finally some effect as his turret starts smoking, fire again nothing. I have to drive around him and put two more rounds into his side at 100 meters to kill him. I drive back to our town where his other flak buddy is and kill him with 1 shot from a mile out. So now the town is down and my invinceble ostwind friend comes back in an m3, Im in my Il-2. He's in town so I dive in on him open up at d600 watch shells dance around him then 4 confirmed hits and numerous near misses. In my experiance its rare for an m3 to survive 1 Il-2 cannon hit(yes I was firing only cannons) even rarer for it to survive 2, 4+(and near misses Ive killed m3s before with 23mm near misses only.) is unheard of. Then he 1 pings my il-2s engine and left cannon and gets the capture.

As far as panzer damage model goes was driving a panzer yesterday with 3 hispano planes strafing me, various bombs going off nearby going off nearby and a tiger shooting at me with no damage. Until a la7 strafes me repeatedly and kills me. The other day I emptied my yaks 37mm into the arse and rear turret of a panzer to no effect. But that dweeb plane can kill me with its little 20mm.

Soulyss · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2003, 10:18:34 AM »

bj229r, the incident with the map room you're speaking of...

If memory serves me I was the tank the killed you and destroyed the VH (actually it was "emodin" but I was at his home and playing on his computer). Anyway I was a Panzer parked near the VH and NOT the Tiger parked in your maproom, that was someone else. Anyway I was firing from point blank range, even a Tiger can't stand up to that kind of abuse, let alone a Panzer.

bj229r · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2003, 06:22:01 PM »

Ahh Cc Soulyss--didnt wanna use the name lest they think i was accusing someone of cheat or somethin--but WHAT was the wierd thing with the rocket-lookin thingies? never seen anythin like it(must admit..it DOES make sense that the guy wasnt shooting thru map-wall)