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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2003, 09:13:25 AM »
http://www.rans.com/RANSHome.htm

I plan to spend my retirement building this(however I have to wait 13 more years :( :
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Offline Gunthr

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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2003, 09:20:02 AM »
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If you want to stunt it, I would be very, very careful.
- Kieren

Really good point, Kieren. The first thing you'd want to do in that bird is loop, spin and do 360 rolls. The never exceed speed does seem low for such a clean plane. With the nose down it seems like it would be almost too easy to blow it.... although it tolerates g's well.  

Then, add in the "homebuilt factor"  :eek:
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2003, 09:32:23 AM »
think you should scrap the whole spit idea .. and find a 109F kit plane :)

good luck with your dream
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2003, 09:41:02 AM »
Eagler et all...

Prepare to drool....

http://www.viper-aircraft.com/

I want one.  Now Now Now Now   :D
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2003, 11:01:54 AM »
How much does one of those spit like things cost in US dollers?
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2003, 11:13:40 AM »
Empty Weight 2200 lbs.
Gross Weight  Aerobic 3800 lbs.
Gross Weight Full Fuel
(2 Pilots) 4300 lbs.
Never Exceed Gross Weight 5000 lbs.

2100 pounds for 300 gallons of fuel and 2 pilots? Fuel at about 6.5 lbs/gallon? Going to need two skinny pilots to go cross country with full tanks.

Looks like 225-250 gallons would be more realistic, especially if you use the 100 lb baggage allowance.

Other than that, it looks nice.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2003, 12:33:23 PM by Toad »
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2003, 11:24:56 AM »
They have a show on Discovery Wings where they're building an RV-8. Avionics are 15 grand, motor is 20 grand, etc., etc..... Looks pretty cool, and I might give it a try right after I finish my current project- a birdhouse I started 42 years ago when I was a Cub Scout.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2003, 11:35:26 AM »
A Coyote or Kitfox look like good ways to go for my taste. Relatively cheap, and good short field performance. Not great cross-country machines, but would mainly be flying around the countryside here anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2003, 12:08:14 PM »
I think that little devil is on your shoulder whispering in your ear, Kieren  ;)  

"it would be a good learning experience for my girls"

"I could use it to reach "disadvantaged" students"

"It could probablly be a tax write-off"

"I could actually save money by using the car less"

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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2003, 12:12:38 PM »
My girls will be loooong gone before I can think about that dream. Wife made me quit flying because of the girls.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2003, 01:37:11 PM »
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Originally posted by Airhead
They have a show on Discovery Wings where they're building an RV-8. Avionics are 15 grand, motor is 20 grand, etc., etc..... Looks pretty cool, and I might give it a try right after I finish my current project- a birdhouse I started 42 years ago when I was a Cub Scout.


New Years Eve & Day they had a marathon from when they took it out of the crate, to its first flight....very cool.

The show is called "From the Ground Up"

The other show, "A Plane is Born" is of a English gent building a Eurocoupe (i think)....they are now building an Exec 162F chopper ("A Chopper is Born") that looks very interesting.  Check the Rotorway website out at http://www.rotorway.com/news.html#36
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2003, 05:33:54 PM »
Kieran,

I would go for the Kitfox, nice plane, lots of support.  I built one right up to the covering, then the Plainfield tornado in 1990 stopped me from finishing it, as I had to completely rebuild my house first, which meant I had to have some money, so my friend who watched me build it, bought it.  Kind of a bittersweet situation, needed the money, and glad to have a quick buyer, but hated to see it go.   Don't trust a tornado....mothernature's P.M.S.  :eek:

Thorns
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2003, 07:05:33 PM »
You know if you just want to fly and have fun for about 20,000 you can buy a trike and have a blast. The wing can be broken down so you can store it in your garage.

I decided for now to spend my time flying rather than building

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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2003, 07:17:40 PM »
There is nothing that compares to the open air flying of an ultralight. Well... nothing else I have done in my provincial life. ;)
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2003, 07:34:26 PM »
Try it in a trike. I can give you the name of some good schools in the US. I took my first lessons in Kentucky. I know a great instuctor in New York state and one in Ontario and Montreal. I have flown with them all.

A trike is like no other kind of flying you have ever done. You are totally in the open up front. Not even a strut in front of you on some models. You can turn off the engine and soar. It climbs like a rocket and takes off and lands in a couple of hundred feet.

If you fly three axis it will take about 10 to 15 hours of instruction to solo. If you have never flown you actually take a bit less as you do not have to unlearn the habits of using a stick.

I feel totally safe flying my trike as I know I can land it almost anywhere if I have too. An engine out is a non event if you have a open space anywere near to aim for.

If you decide you want to cross country you can buy a wing with different flight characteristics for about 6,000 and you have a totally different aircraft.

Trike are the most common aircraft in South Africa Austraila and a few countries in Europe. I think they will be in the US and Canada in about 10 years. They are inexpensive, fun and easy to fly and maintain, everything flying should be.
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