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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2003, 10:03:42 AM »
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I was a superb film, and much better than the first (which was pretty good anyway). Gollum ellicited mixed feelings from me - one was pity, one was revulsion. The confusion of the two was quite uncomfortable, which was cool.

The battle scene was great. But why build a wall with a great big breach in it? And why leave the bridge to the keep still standing, knowing it would be attacked?

People have mentioned how Lord of the Rings could be an anology for the rise of Hitler and WW2. I can see echoes of it - the tree things could be like America - a huge force unwilling to be involved until it is attacked itself. I dunno.


The "Ring" represents the Machine. Could be...
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2003, 10:05:15 AM »
"Gollum is just a cgi over a recording of the actor inclunding I think some elements of his face "

*just*?. While they certainly did film the actor in the shots and used motion capture, it's more used as a reference than anything else...the 'some' elements of his face, included over 400 invidual facial controls and is by far the best facial animation ever done.
 The animators have tried to capture the performance of Andy Serkis, but they pretty much always do that with voice actors, whether it's 2D or 3D animation.

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2003, 10:21:48 AM »
Loved it!

I don't think there was ANYthing I didn't like about this movie!
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2003, 11:08:24 AM »
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Loved it!

I don't think there was ANYthing I didn't like about this movie!


Didn't like - The Arwen might leave angle.... BS! Are we too stupid as movie goers to understanf Eowyn's unrequited love for Aragorn and the affect it will have on her in the future? This struck me as a "dumbing down of the book".

Otherwise it was a damn good movie!
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2003, 11:40:11 AM »
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People have mentioned how Lord of the Rings could be an anology for the rise of Hitler and WW2. I can see echoes of it - the tree things could be like America - a huge force unwilling to be involved until it is attacked itself. I dunno.


  Tolkin never intended any analogy with any real events in the world present or past.  "It is neither allegorical nor topical" From the Forward in my copy of the second edition.  It was ment for the reader to be able to fill in the meaning from events in their lives, not to represent any specific event.

 But in a sence , your are correct, if thats what you got from it :)


 edit:   I loved gollum, and totally agree, an oscar is definatly deserved. The only thing that sucked about the movie is I have to wait another year for the next one.

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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2003, 11:42:51 AM »
Some of Tolkeins experience in the battle of the Sonne in WW1 has been placed into the book however.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2003, 11:51:06 AM »
MT,

The Battle of the Sonne?  Never heard of that one.  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2003, 11:53:04 AM »
alot of tolkiens life experiences is in the book


religion....war....love.....f riends
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2003, 12:07:39 PM »
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MT,

The Battle of the Sonne?  Never heard of that one.  ;)

Shuckins


Well, the N is right next to the M... sheesh!


SOMME SOMME SOMME........
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2003, 01:21:26 PM »
I agree MT. Parts were magnificent beyond words, stunning, awe inspiring, better than my imagination. Then there were the elves at Helm's deep, the The Arwen might leave angle, Theoden as a cautious fool, Farimar's detour to get to the same mental place he was at in the book, and the reluctant Elrond and Elrond the sitcom daddy (though the Aragorn/Arwen angle was covered in the appendicies). The Arwen episode did give me a chance to drain the bladder though. Ultimately not major deviations, but not needed for clarity or compression purposes either.

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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2003, 01:25:15 PM »
aggreed. didnt add anything to the movie at all and hard to imagine why they strayed from the story in the ways they did..
but very good movie.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2003, 03:01:39 PM »
Pongo,

I agree.  The original story was strong enough to stand on its own.  Modern directors cannot resist the temptation to diddle with a story line.

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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2003, 03:39:40 PM »
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Loved it!

I don't think there was ANYthing I didn't like about this movie!


a few things spring to mind,

Shield-Skating Legolas

Gimli ridiculized at every chance, he is basicaly a fighting Alf.

Frodo offering the ring to the Nazgul :eek:

Aragornīs wet dreams.

The complete lack of actual love scenes between Frodo/Sam & Legolas/Gimli & Eomer/Horse

But overall it was decent enough, amazing Battle scenes.
And amazing graphics, liked the way they included Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith (spelling?) artwork (olifant, etc)
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2003, 01:47:08 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2003, 03:11:26 PM »
bwahahahahaah!!!  jar-jaromir.

priceless!
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