i use the ms stick, no spiking. you can get a bit of nose bounce, but overall great stick. Have used ms sticks since 98 (49 bucks for the non-ffb version). Overall the best cost-effective solution. I am trying out a new saitek x45, but the rudder is on ur fingertips, so i think i will have to add pedals to like that stick more than my sidewinder.
bockk