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Offline Tuomio

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2003, 03:54:16 AM »
I just recently updated about 70% of my computer and the total price was about 400$, this is my share of research information which you should find usable for budget computer.

The MOST IMPORTANT is GOOD motherboard. You should not buy cheap ones, but only the best. They are all over 100$. Motherboard sets the limits for future upgrades and the cheaper you buy, the lesser you have such features, also cheap brands usually dont patch their Bioses even than they had fatal bugs.

Motherboard priorities:

AMD socket-A (You cant buy Intel if you go for budget prices)
333 mhz FSB (important for upgradability)
DDR RAM 333 or 400mhz
USB 2.0
Chipset VIA or Nforce2
Manufacturer _only_ from Asus, Epox or Chaintech. They are like Porche compared to others which are all Ladas.

Processor:

AMD AMD AMD AMD, dont you get it, Intel will be about 100$ more expensive but with only minimal more processing speed, even none.

Look the processor speeds/prices, you see high raise suddenly and it is currently somewhere AMD1800+XP. Buy the one just before the price raisepoint.

Memory:

DDR ram, 256 minimum, i would buy 512mb, 333mhz.

Video card:

I havent looked this closely since i didnt upgrade my video card. However DO NOT buy geforce 2/4 MX brands! And APG 8x is only for marketing purposes, benchmarks show it doesent increase FPS a single frame. All info is in benchmarks, look from there before buying.

Sound card:

Because this is budget computer, look for MB with integrated sound circuit (nowdays same MB will have lots of different features included, like RAID capability). Ie. Epox 8DRA+ has sound chip that supports surround, Dolby 5.1 and digital input/output. I bet your friend with $$$ sound card cant tell the sound quality difference. One other plus is, that they dont make your system instable, like Sound Blaster has tendency to do. SB has appalling support for their brands.

Net card:

If you need one, i advice to pick even this integrated on the MB, it however raises the price with ~20$. Net cards are famous for making your system instable, integration rarely should have such problems.

Hard Drive:

Buy cheap ones with 30+ GB of space.

Power:
350w or 400w. The bigger you buy the longer it will last (they will go "bad" with time), again dont save 4$ with buying 300w instead of 350w. Buy the cheapest ATX box that you can find.

Only cooling you need is heatsink with fan for the processor. IF the MB will start to suffer from too much heat (PC health status will show something 40c or so), only then buy chasis fan. Remember that fans make noise so you should keep them minimum.
For heatsink buy the cheapest, but ask from the storekeeper what is enough for your processor. The price shouldnt be above 15$. BE CAREFUL when assembling the sink, USE SILICON grease if the sink wont have such "patch" underneath it. Sink notches will require lots of force to be bent to its hooks, this is the stage where lots of people break their processor. If sink isnt correctly in place it may pop out when the power is on and the processor will definetly fry in matter of seconds.
I would advise to let the storekeeper to put the fan with the processor on the motherboard, they will do it mostly without extra $$.

edit: I wouldnt go for Asus-a7v333, it has no support for 333fsb and USB 2.0 (333fsb is required for the new 2200+XP and over, they will be good upgrade next christmast). Look instead for Asus A7V8X or Epox 8RDA <- is award winner in anandtech.com tests for "value motherboards" and is little cheaper than Asus, but is less available in stores.

Cheers:p
« Last Edit: January 08, 2003, 05:34:20 AM by Tuomio »

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2003, 10:15:19 AM »
Tuo - the A7V333 does have USB 2.0 support, or is "USB2 Ready", - does that mean the same thing? http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v333/overview.htm

But the A7V8X that you mentioned does look good, but is more expensive. I think I'll stick with the A7V333 for the cleaning lady as cost is crucial, and get the A7V8X for myself when the time comes. ;)

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2003, 11:09:24 AM »
Oops sorry, it seems that it does support the USB 2.0, however still not FSB 333mhz. I think thats a 30$ saving from the wrong place, unless you dont mind buying a new mobo when you want to upgrade CPU. But each of his own i guess.:)

Check that Epox 8RDA price, it should be somewhat lower.

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2003, 11:44:02 AM »
SDRAM is really cheap, use that

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2003, 01:06:26 PM »
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Originally posted by beet1e
Tuo - the A7V333 does have USB 2.0 support, or is "USB2 Ready", - does that mean the same thing? http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v333/overview.htm

But the A7V8X that you mentioned does look good, but is more expensive. I think I'll stick with the A7V333 for the cleaning lady as cost is crucial, and get the A7V8X for myself when the time comes. ;)


The A7N8X (nvidia nforce2 chipset) is reputedly faster than the VIA. The deluxe has 8x AGP, Two onboard LANs, SATA RAID, and Soundstorm 5.1 soundcard onboard, USB 2.0 x 6, and firewire (IEEE1394)
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