Author Topic: email at work.. dumbprettythang (Read 1238 times)

Wlfgng · « **on:** January 09, 2003, 09:18:57 AM »

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_1661216,00.html

yeah, this elected official was intelligent

LePaul · « **Reply #1 on:** January 09, 2003, 09:23:57 AM »

LOL, wow....too funny

Never do your fun stuff on company property

Curval · « **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2003, 09:52:17 AM »

He is an elected official that gets horny for his girlfriend...OMG...hang, draw and quarter that man.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #3 on:** January 09, 2003, 09:56:55 AM »

he's married and doing it on company time.
The premise of firing him is that he was so consumed with this email (to his secretary) that he didn't get his job done..
his work that is...

it also illustrates a point: Work email is public property...

gofaster · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2003, 10:12:02 AM »

I would suspect that this is the real motivation for the investigation rather than any sort of sexual harrasment claim:

"Records show that Baker boosted Sale's salary by $41,000 in less than three years, and also gave her overtime and bonuses."

I suspect Whitley was more annoyed by the money than by any lewd remarks that he could've made, but she knew a charge of sexual harrasment carried a greater powder charge and would get action quicker. Nothing draws an employee's ire more than unfair advantages being used by another employee to boost position and wealth the office.

Both Sale and Baker had it coming.

Curval · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2003, 10:14:37 AM »

<----- scrambles to delete all e-mails.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2003, 10:41:51 AM »

udet · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2003, 11:05:04 AM »

is this a free country? Then why isn't your email private anymore?

Wlfgng · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2003, 11:13:26 AM »

because you don't OWN the machine, service, network, etc at work.
You're using theirs.

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:08:20 PM »

One thing.. Your doing it on Company time..and company property.

Some companys even know what website you visited and what time!

Thankfully, I don't have to be concerned I'm one of the owners..

Hortlund · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:18:36 PM »

Are you kidding me?

A judge ruled that these messages are public property? Is he INSANE? I mean, we in Sweden have pretty much the most liberal freedom of information laws there is (scientology bible is a good example of that).

But there is no way something like that would be pulled from an employees email account and made avaliable to the public.

un F*CKING believable...

That judge should have his head examined. Or better yet, someone should take a look at his temp internet files folder...

Nifty · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:22:13 PM »

actually, it goes beyond the usual "company" email vs "personal" email in this case. He's an elected official. Any communications he issues using his official channels (phones, email) are public property according to Colorado law. It's the same here in Florida as well, our elected officials in the school system I work in, that is the Superintendent and School Board members, are under the same umbrella. The school board members chose NOT to have official email accounts for this very reason. The superintendent needs it, so every message he sends is CC'ed to a special archive (makes it easier on him and the email admins if they ever need to recover an email of his.)

One of our county officers here got in trouble for something he said in an email. If memory serves me correct, it was a racial comment. I can't remember if he resigned or was just reprimanded though.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:22:38 PM »

I think it's great.
it's abuse of public time, money and equipment.

now if he owned his own computer, paid for his own ISP, and wasn't getting paid to screw around ....it'd be different.

Hortlund · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:26:38 PM »

Well, over here we draw a big 'ol black line between "work related" and "not work related". If you work for the government (like I do) anything work related in my temp internet file, my email account, my HD is public property. Any Joe off the street can demand to see what my mail account looks like for example.

BUT before Joe off the street gets to see the printouts of all my emails, a lawyer-type judge goes over each and every one to see what is work related and what is not. Then he shreds the personal ones, and give Joe the work-ones.

Nifty · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2003, 12:35:31 PM »

hortlund, so it's just a difference between your law and our law. Don't blame the judge for interpreting our law correctly, blame the legislatures that made all public officials' emails public property.