Do you feel like your plane is slow?

[Blank]

what I mean by this is,

when you join a mission, do you seem to drop back as you cant keep up, even though your plane is identical to all the others?

Or when you up with a wingman you have to ask him to throttle back a bit so you can keep up, even though your planes are identical?

this seems to be me in the MA, do other suffer?
is there something that I do that make my plane fly slower?

or another example which happened tonight:

 i was nearing the end of a 262 sortie and had only about a 1/3 fuel left in my last tank, and I heard there was an enemy 262 nearby,

then i saw him 3 k below coming my way, he came up to me and I broke and pulled an immelman as he was sure to have less e than me haveing just climbed, and I was right, I looped over and followed him down 1k behind on his 6,

See this he dove down through our base and I could see he was trying to make me compress as I had come from higher so I applied some rudder to side slip a bit and stop me from locking up, we crossed the field at over 600mph, and I still had to use elevator trim to pull up and follow him, still on his 6 at 1k.

we Zoomed up and levelled at 6k I had lost maybe 200 yards trying to line up for a hopeful squirt of 30mm and then as we flew level he pulled away from me? my plane wouldn't go over 440mph, his was doing 480mph

I had  turned combat trim on again.

Now i filmed it and we were doing the same speed across the field and when we pulled up, but then my plane just wouldn't go any faster in level flight,

Now I checked the speed of a 262 , level at 6k with combat trim offline and his plane was doing that speed, so why wasn't mine?

The only answer I can think of is that if you put on auto pilot the plan is trimmed and steady and will fly to its max, where if you are then trying to fly in formation/chase all the little correction movements you make stop you from reaching this max so you fall back.

any ideas?:

[Hajo]

You might want to disable combat trim.  I don't use it and prefer to trim the aircraft myself.  I do this when in a BnZ or a dogfight.  For some reason seems I have more success manually.  This of course depends on whether you have a throttle setup so you can map the trim keys to your throttle.  If you have a throttle try doing it manually and see if you're satisfied.  You have to remember where you are in trim.  For instance in autoclimb, auto angle etc.  If you disable that by moving the stick your elevators stay trimmed in the "elevator trim up position." Also beneficial if you feel yourself locking up at high speeds you can manually trim out of compression.  Takes getting used to, but I prefer it that way.  I don't want any suprises

[GPreddy]

Trim manually until everyone is formed up if you desire to form up and fly together. It takes some practice but it is worth learning.

[Vulcan]

Swoop has this problem...


... he's seeing Jenny Craig about it.

[Duedel]

Hajo what u'r saying is that with Combat Trim on u'ld be slower than with Combat Trim Off.
Has anyone tested this out or is it just u'r "feeling"?

[Innominate]

Hmmm, never have that problem.
I use combat trim, and do nothing special.

It might be you're using a twist-stick, and are moving your rudder.  Small accidental rudder movements can slow you down enough to fall behind.

possible causes I've actually seen:
1. Accidentally moved rudder, any rudder can slow ya down significantly.
2. Badly calibrated rudder, flying with the rudder moved a bit off to one side.
3. Badlly calibrated throttle, not reaching 100%. (Though if you can turn wep on this isnt it)
4. Accidental RPM adjustments, if your rpm isnt maxed, you'll be slower.  If you have RPM's attached to a joystick axis(like a rotary knob) make sure that the axis is maxing out, and isnt badly calibrated.

Combat trim doesn't touch rudder trim, so I'd doubt that it would cause ya to slow down.

[devious]

This is exactly what's happening to me. On missions, I'm consistently slower than the other guys on a given throttle setting.

I experienced this both on ISDN and 56k dialup lines (God I hate the german Telekom ! Those jerks left me on an analogue line after my move !)

Latency should not be the problem, as my FE interpolates the position updates from other planes I guess - but maybe latency variance screws up the interpolation calculation ?

[Excel1]

Originally posted by Blank
what I mean by this is,

when you join a mission, do you seem to drop back as you cant keep up, even though your plane is identical to all the others?

Or when you up with a wingman you have to ask him to throttle back a bit so you can keep up, even though your planes are identical?

this seems to be me in the MA, do other suffer?
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Offline mode-  aircraft handle crisply like their on rails, accelerate
                        fast, vertical moves easy to do ?

MA-  aircraft slow in level flight, slow to accelerate out of a turn or
         shallow dive, mushy bouncy handling that cause ugly
         vertical moves ?

In my case I'm fairly certain my MA woes are caused by  my connection to the server. It's been like that since v107 or v108
         
Applink not the MA server anymore, bigger numbers in the MA and vox intergrated with the game, and me still using my slow dialup prolly explains it.


Excel

[Wlfgng]

it's all in the crew chief... mine rocks.. just ask my squaddies.

[EvilDingo]

I think this is a framerate problem. People with slower frame rates actually fly slower. I can't remember the thread I read it in though.

Beeker

[Wlfgng]

no I don't think so.. it's more about trim, auto, minute changes in flight path.. etc

[maxtor]

A pilot on autopilot will outrun/outclimb you if you try to manually follow.  I beleive this is becuase the autopilot does a better job of maintaining trim than you can on your own.

[Wlfgng]

that is unless you (following the autopiloted plane) go level for speed and zoom up to him (repeat until caught up).

[Furious]

Inno hit it.

your throttle or rpm's are most likely not calibrated to full throw.

[ccvi]

Auto level, climb etc. flies the plain superhuman clean. There's no way keeping up flying it manually.