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Offline hazed-

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formation bombers, how about.....
« on: January 09, 2003, 12:13:18 PM »
we have formation Tanks? :)

2 drones that follow the player and fire at what he fires at (only inaccurately).

when you die in the lead tank(or ditch) you jump to next tank same as bombers.

perhaps a small perk charge for using a formation of tanks

maybe a way to form them into a Vic formation for moving or line abreast for attack on bases.

I just thought this would be a fun addition.Large tank battles would certainly give us a few extra bombing targets :)

make drones immune to trees and rocks unless controled by a player.

anyhow what do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2003, 12:23:05 PM »
I don't know about handling armor this way, but I sure hope that when we get mobile artillery that it works like this; i.e. you get a battery of 4 to 6 guns, that all set up and train out to fire in a pattern.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2003, 01:54:16 AM »
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2 drones that follow the player and fire at what he fires at (only inaccurately).


If the drones were not accurate, they'd be useless.  Tank gunnery from any range beyond open sights is a very precise thing.

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2003, 03:39:23 AM »
I agree with Sabre, mobile mortyr tanks or something with a large range and big shells

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2003, 09:53:28 AM »
I'd hope the tree collision bug/feature would be changed first.  Or else I'd lose a lot of those drone tanks to tree collisions.  Especially with ext. views turned off.

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2003, 12:25:07 PM »
ship 8" fires 3 at a time no?

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2003, 12:46:03 PM »
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ship 8" fires 3 at a time no?


Yep.  What I really wish is that you had the option to slave all three main gun turrets on the CA (9 barrels total) to a single direction finder, such that they all fire together.  With tanks firing against other armored vehicles, this would not be particularly effective because of dispersion.  If shelling a town, it would have more effect.  The main problem as pointed out would be manuevering three tanks as one unit.  With trees and other "explosive" shubbery and terrain features, you'ld be lucky to get 200 yards from the vh before lossing one.  Taking a trio of tanks into a town or strat target would be impossible.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2003, 01:50:25 PM »
unless you could control formation - say pick from formation abreast or formation single file.

still I don't know if it is a good idea or not.

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Re: formation bombers, how about.....
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2003, 02:41:39 PM »
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Originally posted by hazed-
we have formation Tanks? :)
2 drones that follow the player and fire at what he fires at (only inaccurately).


Hmmmm . . .why just tanks?  Why not Stukas? Vals?  Shturmis?  SBDs? TBMs?  Kates?

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2003, 10:10:14 PM »
the basic reason i thought this was a good idea was the distribution of machines on a typical battle field.

In a real battlefield generally there are hundreds of tanks and mechanised infantry with air battles above or attacks by squadron strength jabo units(at least in a lot of the battles im reading about recently including North africa). In AH we have hundreds of aircraft and very few tanks.
What a formation of tanks would do is make the game appear a little more like a typical battle.Just like single bombers was a very rare occourance so indeed were single tanks.One lone tank commander wouldnt be likely to attack anything like an airfield on his own.So by giving the player 3 vehicles, 2 or 3 players with formations would closer resemble a typical tank platoon.(or at least 9 instead of 3 tanks would present a better looking and more realistic attack)

As for drones exploding, like i suggested, couldnt the drones pass through objects? I know ive seen drone bombers pass over mountains on take off where, if they were player controlled, they would have crashed.Obviously HTC has some way of making them survive to stop us losing them on takeoff into a hill.

Basically after reading a book recently on tank battles, I noticed the numbers in a single thrust or attack on bases/airfields were much higher than id typically see in AH.In AH you can be lucky if you see 4 or 5 let alone anthing in the tens or hundreds.And in AH there are far more aircraft than you would be likely to see in any one place over a battlefield(generally speaking of course).The formations could go some way to readdress this imballance.AND it would give jabo fans plenty of moving targets.

I suppose its cosmetic really but i think shelling bases could be much more fun like this, also panzer to panzer fights could last a little longer for the individual who isnt very good at shooting and often dies quickly.Like me :D


maxtor you could be right , it might not be as good as it sounds but maybe it could be tested out in another arena to see if it works?
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