Author Topic: What would you do? (Read 277 times)

Saurdaukar · « **on:** January 14, 2003, 12:20:25 PM »

Had to wake up last night at 4:15AM to go help my buddy out of some rat hole in the city with a little help from Springfield Armory... apparently he started "trafficing" some things that, according to law, he shouldnt.

He got messed up pretty good, jumped by three local "thugs" during a "transaction," but more importantly, Im afraid he may be going downhill.

How do you approach a close freind thats falling through the cracks about something like this? I'd like to see him stop this kind of behavior before he lands himself in jail for possession, but I dont think he'd take me seriously until he actually does get sentenced for an extended stay in one of PA's many beautiful state "correctional facilities."

Anyone with any experience on this?

Thanks,

jonnyb · « **Reply #1 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:27:49 PM »

He's obviously going downhill fast. Most times in situations like this, the person wants help desperately, but doesn't think it is needed. Almost always, they must hit rock bottom before they are ready for help. Unfortunately for your friend, this may indeed require a stay at a state-run facility. Basically, he was getting his butt kicked, and called you for support. You showed up, and now he doesn't have to worry because you saved his butt. Explain to him that this was a one time occurrence. You don't need to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you ever get another phone call like this, tell your friend that he got himself into it, and he had to get himself out.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:32:20 PM »

If there was an answer, there wouldn't be so many criminals in the U.S. now. Good luck.

culero · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:34:40 PM »

You'll hear many different versions of advice about this, because individual experiences vary so much.

In general, IMO, only three things can be said with certainty:

1) You can only help by being a friend, but not an enabler. Be true, be steadfast, be fair, be firm.

2) You cannot act for him, he must make his own choices.

3) You must understand that not everyone can or will overcome this kind of stuff, no matter what. Don't let that make you decide to give up, but realize you're only responsible for what *you* control.

How we have made progress in dealing with alcohol abuse in our society is IMO an amazing success story when compared to the way we've failed regarding other intoxicants. Its too bad your friend is suffering in part due to that.

culero

hawk220 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:38:30 PM »

If he's your friend you need to give him a generous helping of tough love.. if he's into some seedy toejam like this, those scumbags would just as soon stick a knife in your friends' throat as look at him. He got rolled by three other dudes.. he's lucky he's not dead. And you need to stress that as strongly as you can. You need to raise your voice and get in his face. You can risk hurting his feelings or you can pick out a suit to wear to his funeral.

I'll lay odds that he doesn't or didn't have a father figure in his formative years.. his lack of boundaries shows this. YOU need to kick his bellybutton and get him to pull his head out.

he would be LUCKY if all he got was jail time.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:00:45 PM »

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Originally posted by hawk220

he would be LUCKY if all he got was jail time.

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hawk220 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:09:30 PM »

bro.. you need to hire an attorney. cause when this all blows up..and it will.. you will need some hardcore representation. I work with cops.. and if theres one thing I know, its that bad cops get caught by the good cops. The boys in blue on this board will tell you the same thing. And when they do its a huge toejamstorm as they take everyone down with them.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #7 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:18:50 PM »

Request:

Anyone who responds to this thread: Please do not quote my last post in the event I wish to delete it.

EDIT: Skuzzy - thinking about this post - Im not sure if you want it on the HTC site - little more hairy than the usual stuff - if such is the case, please delete.

EDIT 2: Deleted portions of the latest post... dont need black helicopters showing up...

miko2d · « **Reply #8 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:23:38 PM »

I've had a very good success enrolling my young protege in the US army. Can you possibly pull that one? Fast?

miko

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:28:33 PM »

I'm afraid that if those thugs didn't beat some sense into him, the only other thing would be getting arrested... and if he's got certain contraband he could be in jail up to 40 years.

If he gets busted with a lil bit of weed in only one bag, he'll be lucky.. anything else (including just weed, but in 2 bags) and he'll be fukd.
-SW