Author Topic: Blue on Blue Afghanistan incident - Pilots on Amphetamines... (Read 1394 times)

Ping · « **Reply #30 on:** January 15, 2003, 03:56:44 PM »

hblair. It wouldnt suprise me of a coverup as well.
Its been my thinking all along. However the News I have been hearing is that the pilot was told to not drop and he chose to do so after.

Still think its a coverup tho.

Gota stop drinking with these meds

Furious · « **Reply #31 on:** January 15, 2003, 03:58:33 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I see you failed to comment on the oompa loompas tho....
-SW

My lawyer says I shouldn't talk about that.

Thrawn · « **Reply #32 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:04:09 PM »

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Originally posted by hblair
The canadians were conducting a live fire exercise in a war zone that was being overflown by US military aircraft.

They were conducting a live fire exercise in a designated training area. Where other teams, including US special forces teams, conducted live fire exercises earlier.

hblair · « **Reply #33 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:06:56 PM »

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Canada's crying again...doesn't surprise me. This trial is a crock...if Canada can't handle war...they should stay out of it...

err, I think canadians can handle war. What's that got to do with it?

Ping · « **Reply #34 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:07:12 PM »

thrawn has more free time on his hands so I defer to him

hblair · « **Reply #35 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:10:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
They were conducting a live fire exercise in a designated training area. Where other teams, including US special forces teams, conducted live fire exercises earlier.

I got my info off of american TV so it has to be right!

That's the term they used no kiddin...

Thrawn · « **Reply #36 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:11:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Ping
thrawn has more free time on his hands so I defer to him

I work in tech support. I have an OC3 connection and can't surf for porn.

wulfie · « **Reply #37 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:12:25 PM »

(edited - what I basically said had already been posted while I was typing)

Mike/wulfie

Thrawn · « **Reply #38 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:17:00 PM »

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Originally posted by hblair
I got my info off of american TV so it has to be right! That's the term they used no kiddin...

I thought the BBC would be a neutral enough news source.

"Investigation

This latest episode is even more perplexing since the Canadian troops attacked were in a designated exercise area rather than engaged in offensive operations. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1937217.stm

hblair · « **Reply #39 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:24:21 PM »

Well crap wulfie. That was a good read man, you shouldn't have edited it.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #40 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:26:39 PM »

Well, if it ain't amphetamines or methamphetamines they are being fed, then it isn't as bad.

Wulfie- I read what you typed before you edited it- I would just like to say that ephedrine and ripped fuel (ripped fuel contains ephedrine, but I seperated them because there are 2 versions of ripped fuel, and ephedrine now comes in it's own pill form at 7-11 and other convenience stores) shouldn't be considered engineered very well.

They result in starry vision, and very poor night vision. During the day, looking at the bright blue sky or anything white also leads to seeing some strange things.

I can't really explain it better than that, but the effects, and after effects, it causes are almost like a lower potency/quality form of speed. And speed is one nasty drug to be under the influence if you need to make intelligent decisions.

Sure, you can react faster and make decisions faster.... but it just may not be quite right.

-SW

Ping · « **Reply #41 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:27:11 PM »

Agreed hblair. Wulfie..should put it back in.

wulfie · « **Reply #42 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:44:21 PM »

Sorry guys, it was better for me to not post 'in such detail' right now. The main point was mentioned by others (finally) - hold off on judgement and no one (regardless of Nationality) took those guys getting killed lightly.

AKSWulfe - how long were you using it for? I'm not going to get into brand names but in my experience once your system is 'used to' whatever you are using, the 'hyper effects' tend to disappear. With me (using stims of one kind or another for years now) if I change what I'm using I usually go half doses for the first week. Lots of doctors in my family - I usually ask them about it and main advice I got was 'don't continue use when not required for work', i.e. 3 or 4 weeks of easy work or vacation or leave and I don't use them at all.

The official stuff being used isn't amphetamines or methamphetamines to my knolwedge. And like eagl posted elsewhere it's used under supervision of trained medical types.

Mike/wulfie

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #43 on:** January 15, 2003, 04:55:35 PM »

I used it for a lil over a year, but the wierd vision things didn't start to crop up until a few months before I stopped using it all together.

The starry vision is actually just a lack of oxygen to the brain, but the ephedrine complicated that problem during work outs or getting up early in the morning... the other stuff (I can only explain it as swimmy vision, but not nearly anything like a hallucinogen would produce) was more pronounced the longer I took the Ripped Fuel and with less sleep.

In any event, I don't really care about this issue since the drugs these pilots are given are apparently not of the illegal nature... but given the choice between a caffiene pill and ephedrine(or something like ephedrine/speed/cocaine), I'd take the caffiene...
-SW

takeda · « **Reply #44 on:** January 15, 2003, 05:03:34 PM »

And all this time thinking "War on Drugs" meant some other thing....