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Offline TheFatz

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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2003, 12:14:37 PM »
I donno about the F6 but the F4F does it well,  very well.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2003, 12:20:27 PM »
La7 cause it's so uber
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Offline Raubvogel

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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2003, 12:27:10 PM »
I've seen P-38s flip 180 degrees in the blink of an eye.
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2003, 01:28:59 PM »
p 38 and yak , those planes reverse like nothing alse
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2003, 01:29:07 PM »
FM2, I've done it inside d800.
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Offline ccvi

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2003, 01:41:08 PM »
At what altitude?
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Offline AKcurly

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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2003, 03:24:32 PM »
thx for the responses, guys.

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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2003, 03:59:08 PM »
republicans, pre-election.
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2003, 04:00:27 PM »
I thot you were going to give the answer curly.  :(
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Re: Elevator authority
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2003, 04:02:22 PM »
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Suppose you have a bad guy about 1.5 behind you.  Ok, you begin a gradual climbing turn and around 175-200 mph (depending on your a/c and the rate of closure of the pursuing a/c), you roll 180 degrees and pull hard.

Of all the planes in Aces High, which plane gets your nose through the 180 degree fastest?

curly


Curly,

Elevator authority is only indirectly related to this situation.  It is really more a question of instantaneous turn rate combined with pitch rate.  Elevator authority is a factor in these but not the sole determining cause...

The turn fighters will have the lowest time to pull through the 180 degrees (I am assuming you are talking about a split S) as they will have the tightest turn radius and highest turn rate, even in the vertical plane.  Probably Spit V, hurricane or zeke will win this one.

The E fighters will gain too much speed in the split S and will have a much larger turn radius and lower turn rate...

Cheers,

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Offline GPreddy

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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2003, 04:09:55 PM »
His description of what he is looking for was good enough whether he got the nomenclature wrong or not.
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2003, 04:11:22 PM »
What Blue said  :D
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Re: Re: Elevator authority
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2003, 04:23:17 PM »
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I am assuming you are talking about a split S



No.  I'm not talking about "Get out of Dodge" moves  ...  I said "you begin a gradual climbing turn"  Further, roll rate isn't too important since the bad guy doesn't have guns on you.

I just want to know of the planes you see in the MA which can most efficiently do the third condition (after 1 & 2 have been executed)

1) you are in a gradual climbing turn;
2) you have rolled 180 degrees;
3) exercise full elevator until you are slightly nose down.


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« Last Edit: January 16, 2003, 04:32:44 PM by AKcurly »
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2003, 04:35:34 PM »
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I thot you were going to give the answer curly.  :(


I "think" it's the p38 Kanth, but I don't know for sure.  I know it's not the 190a5  :D

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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2003, 04:39:24 PM »
Fw190d9.
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