Author Topic: Damage model proposition  (Read 194 times)

Batmann

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Damage model proposition
« on: July 23, 2000, 09:58:00 PM »
I don't know AH damage model very well. But, it must be not perfect yet. I propose 2 factors. [list=1]
  • holes drag[/b]
    It's looks like no simulation about air drag by holes which is shot by enemy. Holes must be drag according to the number. And holes on wing must decrease lift according the number.
    • stochastic destruction[/b]
      How does the fatal damage happen? Wing ripped off, operation chord cutting, fire from gasoline, fuel tank exploding... It is dominated by probability in my opinion.
      Does it always happen if the bullet number of the hitting becomes above being constant looks like WarBirds? I think it's NO!
      I feel AH damage model looks like WB. Pings becomes fatal damage when it is always accumulated and reaches to be constant. Is it best simulation?
      [/list=a]I want to look at especially lucky boy becomes Swiss cheese and is flying dizzy yet. But it must be impossible on present AH damage model.  

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Offline Fishu

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Damage model proposition
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2000, 04:38:00 AM »
Sometimes .50 caliber blows wing and stuff off with wing hits under 3 hits.. sometimes you can plug 15 .50 calibers in same spot and you dont see anything happening (of course with 109 that engine always starts leaking oil, even if hits were tail hits)

I think AH models weakness on the wing when it is being hit alot...
Sometimes just feels that wingtip rips off alot easier after few hits.
Once I flew P-47 with alot head on hits by 109 (ops, that 109 survived, forgot I had elevator gone after dive bombing + acks, fought for the fun of it), he managed to get my fuel tank leaking and then I flew to head on spitfire too.. I got him down and he holed me some more and got my rudder.
After all that and amazement that I was alive, and had flown for couple minutes, I pulled finally 3-4G and *whammo* both wings off.

Offline Karnak

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Damage model proposition
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2000, 10:27:00 AM »
Small holes in the wings, e.g. bullet holes, would not drasticly effect lift.  If those holes were behind the thick part of the wing, then I do not believe that they would effect lift at all.  They might effect drag, but not lift.  Once the air has been spreadout, thinned, made less dense, by going over the thick part of the wing, the lift has been created, the down slope to the trailing edge of the wing is less important to creating lift.

I said that poorly.  I should get more sleep.

Ah well.  

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