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Hortlund · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2003, 07:29:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Swoop
Well HoL is good......but it's also not available in the UK yet. Which means the only way to get it is to download a pirate copy.....which you cant apply patches to cos gamecopyworld only has the no-CD for v1.0.

And it's a seriously buggy piece of software unpatched.

I'll buy it when it comes out cos it's good enough unpatched to see it'll be a really cool game. But the wait until March is a real pain.

Well Swoop, trust me, you arent missing that much right now. Even in 1.02 the bugs made the game almost unplayable, it is only with the addition of a user mod that the game is any fun to play at all (clean 1.02 is too easy, you have Germany conquering the world, yes world, in 1939). There are still a couple of really annoying bugs, but if you ignore them, the game is "fun" right now.

But 1.03 will be another story...and that one is scheduled for late feb.

Hortlund · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2003, 07:46:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Sweden has the potential to crush Moscow in the early years - they just need to get access through Novgorod.

Heh, Sweden has enough problems of her own at start. Sweden starts with piss-poor provinces and as a Danish vassal. My strategy is to work on the economy first. The first move (for me) is always to capture and annex Mecklenburg (big fat CoT), and maybe vassalize Bremen and/or Holstein. It takes some gutsy moves to achieve that though, because the Danes are aiming for the exact same provinces.

After Mecklenburg, it is time to throw off the yoke of vassalship, so I declare independence from the Danish crown, something that almost always ends with a DoW from Denmark and 20-30 000 Danes invading Sweden. That is the time to sieze Skane from Denmark, Sweden is pitifully weak without Skane.

Then I spend the next 40-50 years building the economy, using diplomacy, merchantmen and fighting off various invaders.

The problem for Sweden is that the baltic area is a hornets nest with Poland-Lithuania being a gigantic monstrocity that can easily send in five or six 30 000 men armies pretty much wherever they want. Then this beast allies with Bohemia and some of the smaller German contries, and what have you...a gigantic warsaw pact-like block that will crush anyone.

On the other side of Europe, you have France and England slugging it out while Spain is slowly growing into another absurd monster. After England has wiped out the Scots, they will usually work their way up the Netherlands/Belgium area...towards your prized Mecklenburg.

It is not fun to sit in Mecklenburg with 15 000 men carefully guarding the province that provides 70% of your total income and watch two british 45 000 men armies and five Lithuanian/Polish armies of 40 000 men each slug it out in the next province.

And then you have the Muscowites, the Prussians/Teutons and Novgorod as the wild cards. Will they fight eachother or will they come for Sweden...no one knows. And you cannot forget the Danes...they are always waiting for the opportunity to recapture what you took from them...

Yes, I love that game

It can be frustrating as he** though.

thrila · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2003, 10:43:09 AM »

Toad, unfortunately there isn't a lot in or near plymouth at all. most things are centrally located in the UK.

the only things i can think of are-

The fleet air arm Museum in Yeovil, somerset. That's about an 80mile drive from Plymouth.

There is the Plymouth Naval Base museum but i haven't been there since i was a kid. I can't find any info about it on the net sorry.

you could go on warhsips there etc. Ah, found something- unfortunately you can only go in groups in a pre-arranged visit.

The Bournemouth Aviation museum that's about 100 miles from plymouth.

That's about all i can think of Toad.

Dowding · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2003, 11:31:09 AM »

Heh, Sweden seems like a large power simply because of the land mass. Until you realise it's sparsely populated. Always feel as though it's a threat because of the tech difference early on - those advanced Scandinavians are so superior to my cavemen Russians - not any more though. I bordered Genoa after about 100 years and that gave me a huge neighbour bonus - I soon caught up and passed Sweden.

Do you know if your flag/name changes during the game at all? It's just that Muscovy sounds so... provincial. The Imperial Russian Empire sounds much more appropriate in my case.

Nwbie · « **Reply #19 on:** January 20, 2003, 01:02:05 PM »

Thrila

<etc.........>

Read your post this morning after several frustrating phone calls with clients who don't understand that we have the right to screw up orders as we damn well please !!!
Sorry, got carried away..
Anyway, I laffed my arse off reading your post and must say I was emeshed into your gameplay and your response to the pope....Don't worry, they are the other type of christians, whatever that means, so conquer the bastages!!!

Anyway--thanks for the laffs, I needed em

NwBie

Swoop · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2003, 01:33:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Well Swoop, trust me, you arent missing that much right now. Even in 1.02 the bugs made the game almost unplayable, it is only with the addition of a user mod that the game is any fun to play at all (clean 1.02 is too easy, you have Germany conquering the world, yes world, in 1939). There are still a couple of really annoying bugs, but if you ignore them, the game is "fun" right now.

What's this user mod?

Oh and do the current patches name any more units? Right now only the LW actually has named bombers like JU88, etc. All the others have Basic/Improved/Advanced.

Hortlund · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2003, 04:12:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Swoop
What's this user mod?

Oh and do the current patches name any more units? Right now only the LW actually has named bombers like JU88, etc. All the others have Basic/Improved/Advanced.

Yes, the patches deal with the unit names. No more "1st BB division", instead you get "Bismarck" or "Scharnhorst", no more "pre war dive bomber" instead you get "Hs 123" (as you might see a trend here, yes, I play mostly Germany)

The user mod is made by a guy called Bolt. The mods are named "Bolts version 1.02 a-c" If you have version 1.00, dont bother trying to play it since it will have several critical bugs that makes the game completely impossible to play.

But the user mod will be obsolete when 1.03 comes along. Basically Paradox goal is to take out all known bugs and issues with 1.03 (although there will probably be some bugs left..I mean there always are)

Hortlund · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2003, 04:21:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Heh, Sweden seems like a large power simply because of the land mass. Until you realise it's sparsely populated. Always feel as though it's a threat because of the tech difference early on - those advanced Scandinavians are so superior to my cavemen Russians - not any more though. I bordered Genoa after about 100 years and that gave me a huge neighbour bonus - I soon caught up and passed Sweden.

Do you know if your flag/name changes during the game at all? It's just that Muscovy sounds so... provincial. The Imperial Russian Empire sounds much more appropriate in my case.

LOL, thats funny because when I play Sweden I'm always feeling I'm behind in the tech war. Constantly looking at the other nations dreading when they will go up a land tech (in the beginning, the difference between land tech 2 and land tech 3 will make all the difference in battle) You know about the impacts of land tech on morale and all that..right? (just checking since you are relatively new to the game)

But then...when you reach land tech 8 (I think its 8) gunpowder...man that is so sweet. I got my musketeers first of all in northern Europe, and immideately I declared war on Poland-Lithuania (because it is only a matter of time before they catch up with you). And man...to see your armies of 3-4 000 men smack the sh*t out of Lithuanian 30 000 men armies is a great feeling. If you can use that window (when you have muskets and your neighbours doesnt) wisely, you can grab alot of key provinces.

Usually I go for the CoTs along the baltic when I get that edge.

Yes, the name and the flags for the Muscovites will change. There are alot of events like that. To name a few, Spain will have a similar change, I cant remember which one it is, but I think it is Aragon that will turn into Spain sometime. It is also fun to see the north american colonies revolt and create the USA.

thrila · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2003, 05:11:31 PM »

I've got EU2, i've just never got round to installing it. I may install it later on, whats it's like?