mp3'ers beware

[Nash]

"So I can't share music with someone else?"

That's right.

"Am I supposed to stick my fingers in my ears and hum when some band does a cover tune?"

Bands doing cover songs isn't breaking any laws that I'm aware of.

"Those neanderthal Music Companies are like a drowning man refusing the rope. Music is falling from the sky for free, and they want us to ignore it."

Record companies can drown themselves right out of business. That's their right and they aren't asking you to save them. If you have a problem with the laws take it up with the lawmakers. Record companies can do business however piss poorly they want.

This is just common sense stuff aint it?

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I still don't understand whats stopping people from recording songs off the radio.

Why aren't they pushing for a device that prevents tape decks for recording music from the airwaves?

Theres also other ways to get the music, many stores offer full refunds so long as you return the CD unscathed with all the material in the jewel case. Take it home, burn it, return it.

Even if they offer only store credit, I'm sure after about 7 CDs - they'll have something in that price range you'll wanna pick up.

Record companies promote boy bands, they can all burn in hell as far as I'm concerned.
-SW

[Xjazz]

Originally posted by Eagler
Verizon Must Reveal Internet Song Swapper

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Recording companies won a victory in their fight against online piracy on Tuesday when a U.S. court ordered Verizon Communications to turn over the name of a customer suspected of downloading more than 600 songs in one day over the Internet.

Land of freedom!

Wellcome to USA! You are never alone! The Suit will garantee that!

"Every move you make..." song by Police gets totally new meaning

"Every dowload you make..." song by Police featured by US record companys.

(Duck)

[Fishu]

How can they prove the files in question indeed were pirated music and not just some dummy files?

I can already predict people transfering dummy mp3 files over the net to make goverment officials work pain in the arse trying to prove whether the files were pirated or legal - since the name and size simply doesnt tell anything about the contents.


Oh well.. i dont have any 'illegal' mp3's anyway
screw da pop and download scene music.. it's free and goes better while being on a computer than some hype pop screaming.

[Vulcan]

If WB was stagnant then why play it?

Just as if a song is crap I don't download it.

Obviously the game has some value therefore these people have decided to do what they did so they can play it for 'free'. IEN are not making WB users pay an overinflated price, nor buy other services they don't want with WBs.

If IEN were charging extravagant rates and conspired with HTC and CRS to set high subscribtion rates, and if IEN made you subscribe to ALL their games just to play WBs then the comparison would be valid.

Nash the logic in your statement fails miserably.

[Fishu]

Vulcan,

From russians, you can hear as many ways to make right for piratism as there are words.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by Fishu
Vulcan,

From russians, you can hear as many ways to make right for piratism as there are words.

Fishu,

Absolutely nothing was lost in the translation of this one.  You are 100% correct.

MiniD

[straffo]

Originally posted by Nash
2. Ien have let Warbirds become stagnant. We offered to help them as well as offering to set up servers for them here in Russia. They refused our help so they can bite me for all I care.

After reading some threads about this.

Didn't they failled to protect their product ? more than being robbed ? (from a legal perspective)

[Fishu]

Straffo,

AFAIK only the clients code was protected, but nothing between the client and server -> no crime had been commit by the law.

Which seemingly resulted in the change of EULA by IEN and other companies to include also decrypting of the client<->server discussion as against the EULA.

When I heard first times of these warbirds hosts by third parties, there was legal side discussion all over and I do remember noticing the above change in EULAs.


However from what I've heard, the russians who made their host, has also messed up with the clients code.
I heard they had added a new plane(s), which surely isnt possible without messing up with the clients code.

[straffo]

Yep Fishu that's how I understand it.

Server packet handling is/was not protected enought  to be preserved == IEN fault IMO.

Modification of WB Front End is an obvious hack but not knowing WB EULA I don't know if it's legal or not.

A contrario it's clearly stated in AH term of services :

2. RESTRICTIONS
Alterations. You may not alter the SOFTWARE.

Authorized Hosts. For host-based multiplayer services, the SOFTWARE must be used only to connect to authorized hosts. You are not permitted to use the SOFTWARE to connect to hosts that have not been authorized by HiTech Creations.

Limitations of Reverse Engineering, Decompilation and Disassembly. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the SOFTWARE, except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation.

Non HTC host and FE modifications are strickly forbidden and as it's part of the contract each player has with HTC I guess it apply even for the Chineses ...

[SunKing]

pssst

Use the newsgroups....  use the irc networks. get rid of those p2p n00b programs.

[vorticon]

id rather someone spend there time and money bringing the child pornographers that love kazaa and such so much to justice rather than people who dont want to fork over 20 bucks for a cd with 1 good song surrounded by crap

[SaburoS]

I'm in agreement with Udie on this (imagine that!)

How would you feel if it was your music and hard work being downloaded for free by others and you don't get a single penny?

Let's say you're an author of a book. Slaved months on it. Now all of a sudden free copies are appearing all over the internet but you don't see a red cent because all of the downloaders are doing it for free rather than actually paying for the book.

Stealing copyrighted material.

For those that offer up the arguement that they are against the "greedy record companies and their CEOs", have you sent a check to the recording artist the $.50/song that you're downloading for free? I take it that you like those songs. You say you'd be willing to pay for it.

But you haven't, have you?

Sorry, but you're stealing. Like it or not, that's taking away from the artist as well.

[midnight Target]

Can I burn a copy of a CD that I've purchased?
Can I tape a song from the radio?
Can I lend my CD to my neighbor?
Can my neighbor put the CD onto his computer?
Can I put my CD onto my computer?
Can I leave my CD on my front lawn with a sign that reads 'free'?

[Vulcan]

SaburuS as soon as the record companies engaged in price fixing they crossed the line. They are monopolizing the industry. And remember, 80% of sales come from 3% of artists. So the old 'its hurting the artists' argument is BS.

The Record companies are the ones hurting the artists by refusing to get with the times. Why can't PC users have something like Apples Itunes for example?