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Offline wulfie

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Bin Laden wanted to kill Saddam during last Gulf War...
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2003, 06:11:56 PM »
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Anti-americanism has been growing all over the world since Bush got into power.[/B]


I don't really buy this (and I'm not saying you, personally, are the only one saying this - I'm talking about 'media' reports mainly).

I have seen CNN reports of anti-U.S. demonstrations over the past 1.5 years, where there were 'counter' 'Pro-U.S.' demonstrations very nearby. I know because I was in the immediate area. The 'Pro-U.S.' demonstrations rarely make the news.

Take South Korea - everyone who can remember the Korean war is largely pro-U.S. The only reports on the 'opinion' of South Korea that you will ever see on any TV media have to do with 'angry anti-U.S. South Korean students'.

Go check out some Phillipino news sites on the internet. You hear about Phillipinos against U.S. military forces operating vs. terrorists in the Phillipines...but if you look at the actually regional coverage you have reporters (again, who never make CNN, etc.) from the 'North' who are terrified of the terrorist presence - they literally tear into those in the 'South' who argue vs. U.S. presence but have never been robbed, strong armed, etc. by the 'muslim rebels' (read: terrorists).

As far as unilateral - you need to be fair. If the U.S. was truly acting unilaterally, the pace of developing events in certain parts of the world would be far different. The inspection deadline is a deadline set by the U.N. Don't hammer the U.S. for 'being ready to go at the drop of a hat'.

I think 'anti-Americanism' is reported in such a way as to make it seem far more prevalent than it actually is. I *know* that alot of the 'international rebukes' delivered at the U.S. are primarily for 'internal consumption'.

Mike/wulfie

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« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2003, 06:14:58 PM »
One last poke and I'm outta here:)

Has anyone noticed that a large majority of the disagreement and criticism comes from those outside the US borders?

Imagine that!

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« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2003, 06:22:38 PM »
Very scientific analysis there Rude :)

You might want to actually look to see that there is a large number of US Civies, politicians, Vets against Unilateral action as well.
Seeing as how Bush is saying its to protect World Peace, guess that means we are involved :)
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« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2003, 06:30:54 PM »
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I don't really buy this (and I'm not saying you, personally, are the only one saying this


I posted that based on some stats from international polls I saw recently, I'll try and find some numbers.

[QUTOE][As far as unilateral - you need to be fair. If the U.S. was truly acting unilaterally, the pace of developing events in certain parts of the world would be far different. The inspection deadline is a deadline set by the U.N. Don't hammer the U.S. for 'being ready to go at the drop of a hat'. [/QUOTE]

True enough, the US could be more unilateral.  That doesn't mean that the current level isn't already pissing people off.

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Has anyone noticed that a large majority of the disagreement and criticism comes from those outside the US borders?


That is because we aren't (*raising fists up and down in front of himself*) automaton robots.  :D

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« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2003, 10:58:03 PM »
lol

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« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2003, 03:31:41 AM »
Sung to If You're Happy And You Know It
by John Robbins


If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.

It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq.
To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
They've got weapons we can't see,
And that's all the proof we need,
If they're not there, they must be there,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think Saddam's gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
And he tried to kill your dad,
Bomb Iraq.

If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ain't easy,
And your manhood's getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason,
Let's make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.

 Tronsky
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2003, 08:15:26 AM »
ROTFL!! :)

Beautiful piece, it's yours?

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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2003, 05:31:56 AM »

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That one was great tronski :D